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Basement Air in 2003 Journey
06-30-2010, 01:48 PM
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Hi everyone,
I hope you guys can answer my question about my basement A/C. I've looked at some other posts, and I think I know the answer, but I want to be sure before I bring the MH in.
I had a problem with the A/C. The start relays and capacitors were fried and that fried the circuit board. I think it was low voltage at some point a few weeks back. Anyway, I got the A/C fixed and was running it on the genset yesterday. The power manager readout was showing 32 amps and the genset was running hard. Does that sound right? I think I read that it may be a capacitor problem. Does that sound right, too?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Cajun
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06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
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Mine pulls about 26 amps on the genset with both compressors running, if that is helpful.
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06-30-2010, 02:51 PM
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That does help a bit. If I remember correctly, mine pulled between 20 and 25 amps (can't remember exactly) before the repairs, too, but I don't remember the genset running that fast before. I'll probably bring it back in when I get a chance.
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06-30-2010, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GA Cajun
That does help a bit. If I remember correctly, mine pulled between 20 and 25 amps (can't remember exactly) before the repairs, too, but I don't remember the genset running that fast before. I'll probably bring it back in when I get a chance.
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On my 02 Adventurer, the 20 amp breaker on the generator is dedicated to the #2 compressor so on generator power I only read 17 amps at the EMS panel even with both compressors engaged. I'm surprised that you're getting that reading and not shedding power. On shore power with just the A/C and TV on I'm readiing 28-29. I put the fridge on propane. Burned out to many circuit boards and stuff....
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06-30-2010, 07:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GA Cajun
Anyway, I got the A/C fixed and was running it on the genset yesterday. The power manager readout was showing 32 amps and the genset was running hard. Does that sound right? I think I read that it may be a capacitor problem. Does that sound right, too?Cajun
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Cajun, Are you certain EVERYTHING was off except for the basement A/C? With both compressors running and nothing else running like battery charger, water heater, etc. you should be reading about 25 amps.
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07-01-2010, 02:35 PM
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Kix
Yes everything else was off. I had a feeling that it was pulling too much juice. I'll get it checked as soon as I can.
Thanks
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07-01-2010, 03:24 PM
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cajun, do you know what the output voltage of the generator was at the time you saw 32 amps?
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07-01-2010, 06:12 PM
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GACajun..........sounds like RJay may have a good idea here. If your genset voltage was low it would explain a couple of things. Low voltage would cause the appliance (A/C) to use more amps AND it would cause the genset to run at higher RPM trying to produce 120volts.
Check your genset out and let us know.
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07-01-2010, 07:53 PM
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My coach shows 22 or 23 amps when both compressors are running.
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07-02-2010, 09:50 AM
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After a start up draw of 28 to 29 amps my ac draws 25 to 26 amps. I would suspect the voltage output of your generator. Your numbers JDSR (just don't sound right).
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07-02-2010, 10:30 AM
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Are you guys talking about a 30 or 50 amp setup? As I said, my Adventurer (30 amp) sheds power over a 30 amp draw and shuts down compresser #2. On generator the highest read on the ems is 17 becasue the 2nd compressor gets direct draw from the 20 amp breaker on the generator.....
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07-03-2010, 10:36 AM
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I have no idea what the voltage output of my generator is - yet. I'll have my RV guy check that too. Thanks for the suggestion!!
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07-03-2010, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GA Cajun
I have no idea what the voltage output of my generator is - yet.
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Cajun, It's prudent to be able to know the voltage output of your genset. There are easy ways to be able to tell at a glance. RV Upgrades, et al, sell several different plug in meters that can stay plugged into a moho receptacle. There's the Kill-a-Watt, Good Governor and a plug in analog one too. it's very easy to read the voltage at the receptacle on any of these units. The cheap ones are probably around $20.
If you know how to use a VOM (volt-ohm meter) you could read it with the VOM too. You just would have to remember to get the VOM out to take a reading.
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07-06-2010, 07:02 PM
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Kix,
Ya know, I do have one of those cheapy voltmeters that stays plugged in to a receptacle. I don't remember ever looking at it while the genset was running. I'll have to take a look next time I can get to the MH.
Thanks for the reminder.
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