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Old 04-26-2018, 07:04 PM   #15
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Terry,
Too bad that 02 Horizon sold before you got a chance to see it, but there are others out there. So the dealer who tried to hide the problems from jump-starting with 24 volts, not tells you he reduced the price due to over-charging? Wow... this dealer is a real gem. Tempting as it may be to buy at the 36k price, how could you trust anything he says? And using the excuse not wanting to set a precedent by offering a limited warranty on pre-owned? I don't buy his reasoning. They caused some problems, and although they 'feel sure' it's ok, they are asking you to buy it on blind faith that there's no other, problems. The problems this dealer caused are reason enough to make an exception to their no-warranty policy.

So while it may be sadly disappointing to take your refund and walk away from it, that's exactly what I would do.

Regards to using the RV to travel to see your grand-daughter, have you looking into renting an RV for a few weeks or a month?
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:12 AM   #16
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Yes, it's true. Having a used vehicle at the best of times can be risky, but motorhomes have so many parts to them that repairing them can be trying, not to mention expensive. You are quite right. No need to start inside the hole as I will be digging one soon enough after purchasing a motorhome that "appears" to be solid. Sometimes I wonder if my desire to purchase one is a smart thing to do. But I just got the news that my daughter's father-in-law just died of a sudden heart attack...so life is pointing out to me once more that living it is important. Thanks
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:17 AM   #17
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You are right. And you said exactly what I had been thinking. Unfortunately, my heart was trying to override my brain, which is never a good thing. While it is the heart that can guide me where I want to go, it is my brain that must make the decisions on how to get there.

So, time to tighten the boot laces and march over there and get my money back and get out of there as quickly as I can. I have no doubt they will try to convince me to still buy it, but I won't be listening to anything they have to say. After all,they have already proven how adept they are at talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Thanks for the reality check.

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Old 04-27-2018, 12:14 PM   #18
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Only two ways I knwo to calculate the turn radius one is accurate (Guaranteed) one not.

The NOT: ask the manufacturer

The Guaranteeed: Measure it.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:32 PM   #19
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Need any advice you might have on this coach as soon as possible

Okay guys,

I have narrowed my search down and the finalist is a 1997 Winnebago Adventurer. It is a single slide diesel with a 230 Cummins and Allison transmission. It is 34 feet long, model 34WK-P. It has 130,000 miles on it. I have only seen photos, but I have been told that the paint is good, no bubbling, and there is no delamination. It is a one owner RV and was stored under cover.

Does anyone have any questions about this coach that I should ask about? Or anyone know of any issues? The salesman is suggesting I also purchase a warranty. Any thoughts about that?

I am going in tomorrow to negotiate the price which is $24,900.

Thanks a bunch, Terry
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Okay guys,

I have narrowed my search down and the finalist is a 1997 Winnebago Adventurer. It is a single slide diesel with a 230 Cummins and Allison transmission. It is 34 feet long, model 34WK-P. It has 130,000 miles on it. I have only seen photos, but I have been told that the paint is good, no bubbling, and there is no delamination. It is a one owner RV and was stored under cover.

Does anyone have any questions about this coach that I should ask about? Or anyone know of any issues? The salesman is suggesting I also purchase a warranty. Any thoughts about that?

I am going in tomorrow to negotiate the price which is $24,900.

Thanks a bunch, Terry
Don't forget the age of the tires, no matter how good they look.
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Okay guys,

I have narrowed my search down and the finalist is a 1997 Winnebago Adventurer. It is a single slide diesel with a 230 Cummins and Allison transmission. It is 34 feet long, model 34WK-P. It has 130,000 miles on it. I have only seen photos, but I have been told that the paint is good, no bubbling, and there is no delamination. It is a one owner RV and was stored under cover.

Does anyone have any questions about this coach that I should ask about? Or anyone know of any issues? The salesman is suggesting I also purchase a warranty. Any thoughts about that?

I am going in tomorrow to negotiate the price which is $24,900.

Thanks a bunch, Terry
What's the wires dangling out of the wall by the dinette for? A missing TV? I'd check the stains around the base of the dinette. Download the brochure for the unit from the Winnebago website and check which options it has.

https://winnebagoind.com/product-res...ct-information
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:19 PM   #22
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I asked for the DOT on the tires as I know they can be quite pricey. The salesman did not immediately know what they were, but then said that he has always been a bit skeptical about that as the tires could be perfectly fine but the DOT would say otherwise. I don't know about that. Apparently Washington state does not have any rules about that. What are your thoughts?
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Thanks for your catch on the stains around the dinette. I had not noticed that earlier and will be sure and ask. I did ask about the dangling wires and he thought they had belonged to a tv which the owner had taken. When I looked at other pictures of the same model, it showed a large mirror there.

Other than those two things, I didn't see any real problems, but of course, until I see the coach in person and do a walk through, I won't know for sure.

What is your opinion of this particular model? If you have one. Thank you, Terry
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I asked for the DOT on the tires as I know they can be quite pricey. The salesman did not immediately know what they were, but then said that he has always been a bit skeptical about that as the tires could be perfectly fine but the DOT would say otherwise. I don't know about that. Apparently Washington state does not have any rules about that. What are your thoughts?
Tires start to deteriorate as soon as they are made, kind of like people.
Its inside where you can't see. I once bought a C Class in Holland Mi.
The tires all looked just fine. DW driving the car following me back to Ok.
Every time we stopped, I got the lecture about slowing down. I passed 3 Hwy. Patrols in the center of the freeway once, and told her I would get a ticket if speeding, just couldn't understand what the problem was.
One of them gave out west of Phoenix, and lucky the other rear didn't go too.
We limped to a nearest place, and they had a big tire shop. Closed up this time of night. Seems that the tread had separated from the tire all the way around. When we got to where we were going in So. Cal. I bought 6 new tires.
So I suppose I was speeding.
But the tires Looked Great.

Discount Tire has a whole lot of information on their site.
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Oh my goodness...why I never speed (wink wink). You are undoubtedly correct about the tires wearing out from the inside..I'm afraid I am all too familiar with those goings on inside of me. I will check the DoT on the tires for sure now. Thanks for sharing your story and wisdom.
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I asked for the DOT on the tires as I know they can be quite pricey. The salesman did not immediately know what they were, but then said that he has always been a bit skeptical about that as the tires could be perfectly fine but the DOT would say otherwise. I don't know about that. Apparently Washington state does not have any rules about that. What are your thoughts?
Again a sales person trying to blow off a issue. Depending where parked, the tire brand, inflation history, start being concerned at 5 years, double conserned at 6 years and remove at 7 years.

Michelin has a good read on tire age, but their thought on a 10 year life, no way for me. Most folks do not carry the tools to change a 22.5 tire,

There is a reason it is illegal to run a recap on the steer axle and is illegal to recap a tire over 60 months old.

Tires are cheep compaired to the damage a blow out can cause.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:41 PM   #27
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Update on the Motorhome I selected

Hi all,

Well after much nail biting (literally), I went in and put a deposit down on this 1997 34 foot diesel Winnebago Adventurer.

https://www.rvcountry.com/product/us...r-34-837956-10.

We negotiated the deal at the selling price (they had already reduced it by $5000) and after much looking, I could not find any that were selling for any cheaper than the $24.9, so that is where we settled.

I asked about the tires and because Washington state does not have any restrictions on tires, regardless of DOT, they were reluctant to do anything about them. However, we ended up agreeing that if the tires were "unsafe" meaning past the DOT expiration, then they would replace them. If I considered them to be unsafe, regardless of their opinion, we would split the cost of the tire. They told me that each tire usually costs in the neighborhood of $900 each. I have not researched tires so I don't know if that is accurate or not.

I also purchased a product called MultiSeal, which is a tire sealant with Kevlar. Has anyone ever used that or heard of it before?
If so, what did/do you think?

I also purchased a 5 year road hazard coverage which will replace the rim and the tire. I was going to check my insurance but I don't recall it having that.

Today, I got a phone call from the dealership. He wanted me to know that he received some information on the RV (it is being transported from their partner store in Oregon).

Apparently there had been at one time a leak in the back. He said it was where the "cap" was located. He said this was a common area for a leak to occur. He said that it had apparently been fixed satisfactorily. I asked him how he knew that and he said that is what he had been told by the people in Oregon. If a leak is repaired on the top, it does not mean that water did not seep into the walls. So I asked him about this and he said that had been addressed as well. Without any paperwork...how could he tell that? Does someone know about these types of leaks and the possible damage that can occur?

Then lastly he told me that while sitting in the lot, apparently someone had sideswiped it. He showed me photos where it looked to be okay. But now, someone side swiped it. Well this required that it be straightened out and some painting to be done. Does this sound a little bit coincidental?

I was going to check out the VIN and pull a report. I wasn't sure if that was like a CarFax or not though and if it would show me any accidents that might have happened.

I am a little bit shaken by all of this. Should I call this off before they bring it here? Because once they transport it and I decide against it, it will cost me my $500 deposit.

Why is this always happening?

Really appreciate any advice you could give me....anyone.

Thanks
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Hi all,

Well after much nail biting (literally), I went in and put a deposit down on this 1997 34 foot diesel Winnebago Adventurer.

https://www.rvcountry.com/product/us...r-34-837956-10.

We negotiated the deal at the selling price (they had already reduced it by $5000) and after much looking, I could not find any that were selling for any cheaper than the $24.9, so that is where we settled.

I asked about the tires and because Washington state does not have any restrictions on tires, regardless of DOT, they were reluctant to do anything about them. However, we ended up agreeing that if the tires were "unsafe" meaning past the DOT expiration, then they would replace them. If I considered them to be unsafe, regardless of their opinion, we would split the cost of the tire. They told me that each tire usually costs in the neighborhood of $900 each. I have not researched tires so I don't know if that is accurate or not.

I also purchased a product called MultiSeal, which is a tire sealant with Kevlar. Has anyone ever used that or heard of it before?
If so, what did/do you think?

I also purchased a 5 year road hazard coverage which will replace the rim and the tire. I was going to check my insurance but I don't recall it having that.

Today, I got a phone call from the dealership. He wanted me to know that he received some information on the RV (it is being transported from their partner store in Oregon).

Apparently there had been at one time a leak in the back. He said it was where the "cap" was located. He said this was a common area for a leak to occur. He said that it had apparently been fixed satisfactorily. I asked him how he knew that and he said that is what he had been told by the people in Oregon. If a leak is repaired on the top, it does not mean that water did not seep into the walls. So I asked him about this and he said that had been addressed as well. Without any paperwork...how could he tell that? Does someone know about these types of leaks and the possible damage that can occur?

Then lastly he told me that while sitting in the lot, apparently someone had sideswiped it. He showed me photos where it looked to be okay. But now, someone side swiped it. Well this required that it be straightened out and some painting to be done. Does this sound a little bit coincidental?

I was going to check out the VIN and pull a report. I wasn't sure if that was like a CarFax or not though and if it would show me any accidents that might have happened.

I am a little bit shaken by all of this. Should I call this off before they bring it here? Because once they transport it and I decide against it, it will cost me my $500 deposit.

Why is this always happening?

Really appreciate any advice you could give me....anyone.

Thanks
How about having an RV Inspector take a look at it when it gets delivered. Money well spent. If it's a definite no go then all that you've lost is the $500 deposit and the inspection fee. If the inspector gives it an OK or needing minor work then you are in business.
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