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Old 07-06-2018, 12:08 AM   #421
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Ok a CRT is an old school TV, boat anchor because the silly thing weighted literally 100 lbs the one in the bedroom pretty sure was 50lbs. lol

Yes it is pretty much Coke VS Pepsi. Early on the V-10 had some issues with the spark plugs popping out that has been resolved. I had that problem on my motorcycle, it certainly was an exciting event to say the least. lol

One thing is the ford chassis is still in production. They changed the engine and chassis design in 2012 I believe. Should be easier to get parts.

That is a newer chassis than the fords I drove. I don't know if they have different suspension from the 2003 chassis. I also only drove the ones on the 19" tires.

If we drag race I will win. The ford engine screams and sounds like its going to grenade but is just fine. Its supposed to have more HP but quirky where the power band actually is which makes the Chevy have more usable torque earlier in the acceleration. The transmission isn't liked as well as the Allison on the chevy but I didn't see anyone mention having issues with it.

One thing I noticed when looking at chassis originally is, check the oil often and watch the RPMs. somewhere around here is the peak RPMs to hold the engine at when ascending or descending a steep grade. Most people run into trouble on hills. It appeared to do with exceeding the acceptable RPM and lowish oil. There have been some good threads on managing hills I would do some searches for some guidance on max rpm, whether to have it in or out of the tow haul mode. I think its tow haul mode on on the fords (chevy its turn the OD off) for tackling inclines and managing the frequent downshifting.

Mechanically they appear to be as reliable as the chevy. they don't have the auto park issues the W24 has and doesn't have the caliper issues my W22 has.

Yup Coke and Pepsi. Coke is fizzier and Pepsi sweeter and I like both depending on the mood im in lol.
Oh Forky...thanks for that well thought out response. You probably would win in a drag race...I have no of that.

Yep, my Ford is a noisy boy! I have to shut him up by shutting him down if I am in a drive through lane. Of course, being a diesel, he tends to be noisy anyway.

You are right about those RPMs. I do recall having someone tell me what to watch for, but I just can't remember what number it was, so thanks for that tip. I need to practice driving the old girl a bit before I really hit the road. I don't much like learning bout things while behind the steering wheel...or behinnd the handlebars of a motorcyle when the spark plugs go...whooooeee talk about some good times you had there.

Once I am better acquainted with the rig, I will have to look you guys up to give you an in person thank you.

Not that I am going anywhere now and NOT that I won't be posting all kinds of things online with you guys and asking all kinds of stupid questions like...do they have camp sites with overhead parking? Cause how do you take care of your roof if you are out in bad weather? I don't want to damage it and God Forbid have it develop leaks!

And why do they make so many of these doggone coaches with only one friggin door? The Adventurers are cool because they give the pilot a driver's side door, but not the Sightseer. That floorplan was having to work overtime to sell me because of that knock, and little things I don't really like, but am willing to put up with.

So yeah, Coke or Pepsi...yup, I like them both too depending upon my mood, but throw in some cherry and that's the one I will pick every time.

Thanks for everything...

Best, Terry
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:06 AM   #422
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So yeah, Coke or Pepsi...yup, I like them both too depending upon my mood, but throw in some cherry and that's the one I will pick every time.

Thanks for everything...

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Naaaa........ Royal Crown Cola.... and a moon pie!
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Hey Leo...thanks...you brought a tear to my eye...seriously...but then again, I think I poked myself with a branch earlier when out in my garden, so I can't totally blame you Ha Ha.

I sure hope it is me for the reason it says "pending sale" otherwise I am going to have a conversation with someone!

I don't know what is worse here...me making a decision to purchase a particular motorhome and discovering I made a big mistake OR making a decision to purchase a particular motorhome, discovering I made a big mistake AND letting everyone down here for making such a doofus mistake.

I think it is the latter. You guys here have all been so awesome and while I have tried to be a good student and listen to everything you have said and apply that knowledge in a real life purchase scenario....I have this niggling thought that I have overlooked something or not paid close enough attention to what was said and written. I sure hope that good luck has been on my side to help balance out any oversights on my part.

Thanks for your kind comments. It does make me feel better that you said them...oops there is that stupid branch induced tear!

Best, Terry
Suck it up Buttercup! LOL!!!
Quit poking yourself in the eye............or have you been out with your "Daisy Red Ryder? "You'll poke your eye out"

Seriously.............whichever Coach you pick will be the right one for you..........that's all that counts. You have done your homework, take advice from more experienced owners,got a qualified inspection. You have done your best..........that's all any of us can do.

No matter what you get you have a great network of friends on here that you have made and can walk you through with any issues.

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There was a thread where most posted they donít use their drivers door. Iím not gunna lie, we use it just about every trip. Mine has leaked. Iím working on getting the frame sealed up. The window seal dries up and the slamming the door causes it to separate and leak.

Post your weight placard so we can have a look.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:28 PM   #425
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Suck it up Buttercup! LOL!!!
Quit poking yourself in the eye............or have you been out with your "Daisy Red Ryder? "You'll poke your eye out"

Seriously.............whichever Coach you pick will be the right one for you..........that's all that counts. You have done your homework, take advice from more experienced owners,got a qualified inspection. You have done your best..........that's all any of us can do.

No matter what you get you have a great network of friends on here that you have made and can walk you through with any issues.

You'll be fine
Hey Leo...Nah..no poking my eye out, although I have often wanted to goudge my eyes out because of frustration LOL.

Yup...best friends....Right here!!! You guys have been my rock! You are right. After the initial "OH MY GOD" sunk in after I committed to the purchase and plunked down my deposit, I have had a chance to settle down.

I am happy with my purchase...and you are right, I did all that I could do. No used rig is going to be perfect and it will fit my less than perfect life style...perfectly LOL.

I am supposed to go out next Monday. It turns out they can not deliver it to Washington due to some kind of licence rules. Which makes me wonder..If I pick it up up Oregon and do all of the paperwork there...won't I have to then turn around and pay fees to register it here? Huuum. I need to check on that.

In the meantime, I am hanging in there and waiting for the coach to appear. I am pretty doggone excited.

I will catch you guys up when it gets here, because if you think you have been through the ringer with me on the pre-purchase...YEEHAW...just wait for the post-purchase ringer.

Best to you, Terry
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There was a thread where most posted they donít use their drivers door. Iím not gunna lie, we use it just about every trip. Mine has leaked. Iím working on getting the frame sealed up. The window seal dries up and the slamming the door causes it to separate and leak.

Post your weight placard so we can have a look.
Huh Forky...I would have thought you would have for gassing up and those types of things at least. Sorry it has been a problem with the leaking. These doggone things love to collect water.

I have tried to post images within this reply with regard to the placard information, but it won't let me, so I will have to copy it and attach them.

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Little bit of info on this 2009 Sightseer

Okay,

I am attaching a couple of copies of some identifications which appeared to be contradictory.

The first photo show the Vehicle Data indicating the cargo weight should not exceed 3,655 lbs and that a full water tank would weigh 783 lbs and that the tongue weight should be included as part of the cargo.

The second photo shows a GVWR of 22,000 lbs with 7500 on front axle and 14,500 on the rear axle

The third photo shows a GVWR of 22,000 lbs with 7500 on front axle and 15,000 on rear axle.

This was all so confusing that I just ended up calling Winnebago to talk to their tech people.

Here is what I was found out:

The Dry Weight of the coach was 17,260 pounds
The wet weight of the coach (which included Full Fuel tank, Full water tank and Full LP) was 18,475 lbs

So, this means that I have 3,525 lbs of cargo available to me, not 3,665, probably because that did not include fuel and LP.

If I am towing, I have to account for the tongue weight of 500 lbs.

AND if I reach the 3,665 in cargo...meaning I reach the GVWR of 22,000 lbs, then I can only tow a vehicle up to 4,000 lbs in weight.

I was also told that passenger weight does not count? Is that true?

I was questioning how much weight I could put up front. They did not have the "dry" weight of the front and rear axles and so I was told I needed to take the coach to a weigh station before loading it up. Which of course I was going to do.

I hope this makes sense. I have to go outside and spend hours prepping the landing site LOL.

So hopefully I was able to make this clear.

Best to everyone....Terry

Okay...I could not attach the file as it was too big. I will have to figure something else out, but the information is mostly here.
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Do all the financial paperwork in Oregon, get a interim blanket insurance binder from your insurance agent, and the dealer will give you a 30/45 day "in transit" temp window sticker, then you will have all the paperwork needed for licensing in WA..no big deal at all
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Do all the financial paperwork in Oregon, get a interim blanket insurance binder from your insurance agent, and the dealer will give you a 30/45 day "in transit" temp window sticker, then you will have all the paperwork needed for licensing in WA..no big deal at all
Thanks Saddlesore. That sets my mind at ease.

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A few pages back I posted my placard. Use it to put the pieces together by filling in the blanks with the info you do have.. Passengers count. And if you drive around with a full poop/grey tank that is weight unaccounted for and comes off your total cargo weight.

Itís interesting that mine weighs more than yours with all the slides.
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Do all the financial paperwork in Oregon, get a interim blanket insurance binder from your insurance agent, and the dealer will give you a 30/45 day "in transit" temp window sticker, then you will have all the paperwork needed for licensing in WA..no big deal at all
Terry, saddlesore nailed it perfect.
The "in transit" temp window sticker will fly with any LEO you would make contact with. Just be sure to have your sales contract clearly dated, drivers license, good proof of insurance and any Officer would smile and tell you to have a great day! No doubt it will be a great day for you!
Congrats Terry!!!!
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Sooooo...it's pretty quiet here...does that mean the next thing we'll see are PICTURES? Hope so!
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Sooooo...it's pretty quiet here...does that mean the next thing we'll see are PICTURES? Hope so!
Gosh...a whole week and nothing from Terry...If we don't hear back soon, I'm heading over to the West side and check on her. Maybe those neighbors went rogue? Maybe her dogs decided one bit wasn't enough? Hmm..just don't know.

Hoping she's flying down the highway enjoying the new rig!!
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Gosh...a whole week and nothing from Terry...If we don't hear back soon, I'm heading over to the West side and check on her. Maybe those neighbors went rogue? Maybe her dogs decided one bit wasn't enough? Hmm..just don't know.

Hoping she's flying down the highway enjoying the new rig!!
She hasn't been online here since the 10th. Hopefully she didn't go radio silent because it didn't work out. She mentioned being afraid to disappoint us.
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