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Do you really need slider locks?
07-24-2011, 07:54 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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I was told by fellow RVers that they really aren't necessary.
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07-24-2011, 08:35 AM
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Nor'easters Club Mid Atlantic Campers KZ RV Club
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The day my DW tried to open a slide without removing the slide lock is the last time I ever used one. That was three years ago and nothing bad has happened yet. We do have a 5er with electric slides so I wouldn't have a clue if they are neccessary if you have hydrolic slides. I still keep them stored under the bed just in case I would need them for some unforseen reason.
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07-24-2011, 08:47 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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IF you forget to check (when installed you can not see them) and open the slide you will tear the top molding off, if you look in your side mirrors and see "slide creep" you can just pulll over and close it or have a passenger hit the retact button. The choice is yours, I'm a mirror guy. (winnies are not known for "slide creep" but I do still watch the mirrors).
Todd
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07-24-2011, 09:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddawgs
IF you forget to check (when installed you can not see them) and open the slide you will tear the top molding off, if you look in your side mirrors and see "slide creep" you can just pulll over and close it or have a passenger hit the retact button. The choice is yours, I'm a mirror guy. (winnies are not known for "slide creep" but I do still watch the mirrors).
Todd
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If you went to the Winnebago seminar at GNR you may find a difference of opinion. Each year the same question is asked, and each year the answer is the same. Winnebago recommends slide locks be used. They use the example of wind comming from the left rear causing the upper rear corner of the main slide to move up to 6" from the body. When it returns it's usually with a loud bang. It may or may not cause damage but at the very least it would be an unpleasant surprise.
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07-24-2011, 09:02 AM
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I haven't used mine in three years and 35K miles. HWH says there's 3K lbs of pressure holding them in, and if lose the fluid (happened once), the slides only move a couple of inches off the high point and then stop. Since my locks required a hole in the slide roof, I already had one slide leak and don't want to take the chance of it happening again. As I said on another post, the Winnebago tech at Forest City told me he thought it was a stupid idea to put a hole in the roof, and that in his opinion it was only because of their liability attorneys. I'm sure others will disagree, and if you want to use 'em, go ahead. I'm a real rebel - I don't even use wheel covers, just Formula 303.
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07-24-2011, 09:09 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Mine was delivered with only the front locks installed, and on the PDI the sales rep told me most people take them off. I too removed mine. I don't see how they could hold the slide as they only attach to the trim with 2 small wood screws. 9 years later all is fine, no creeping.
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07-24-2011, 09:28 AM
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I have never used the slide locks that came with the motorhome. I drive in windy locations all the time (Santa Ana Winds of Southern Calif). I have never had a problem or any form of creep in the slides.
Am I just luck? I don't know, but I believe I would do more damage forgetting to remove the locks after a long, which in my mind is a more plausible scenario.
JMHO
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07-24-2011, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikerdogs
If you went to the Winnebago seminar at GNR you may find a difference of opinion. Each year the same question is asked, and each year the answer is the same. Winnebago recommends slide locks be used. They use the example of wind comming from the left rear causing the upper rear corner of the main slide to move up to 6" from the body. When it returns it's usually with a loud bang. It may or may not cause damage but at the very least it would be an unpleasant surprise.
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That wind is called a TORNADO !
2004 Winny,79000 miles, big wind from every angle, no straps and it has never crept out !!
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07-24-2011, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddawgs
IF you forget to check (when installed you can not see them) and open the slide you will tear the top molding off, if you look in your side mirrors and see "slide creep" you can just pulll over and close it or have a passenger hit the retact button. The choice is yours, I'm a mirror guy. (winnies are not known for "slide creep" but I do still watch the mirrors).
Todd
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My sister has a Winnebago and their bedroom slide had the creep problem. It would extend about 4" while they drove. A friend with a Winnebago found he had the slide creep on his way to Alaska. His big slide would extend about 8" every hundred or so miles. So yes, Winnebago motorhomes do have the slide creep problem.
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07-24-2011, 09:58 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Hi Hikerdogs,
Sorry I had misread your post so this is an edit.
I think You would notice (mirrors) and hear (wind noise) a 6 inch slide creep long before it was a problem. Did the Winnebago rep say weather this was due to a slide mechanism failure? On my Cambria when installed (top mount behind moulding) you can not see the slide locks. While I do think they are a good idea, if you forget you do wind up with a ruined slide that will cost a lot to fix. It cost me nothing to look in my mirror and listen for excessive wind noise.
Todd
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07-24-2011, 10:08 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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HI FDchief,
Mine was also deliverd with the 2 living area slide locks installed (Winnebago did not provide one for the bedroom slide?) and it was reccommeded they not be used, major cause of slide damage was the reason given.
Todd
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07-24-2011, 10:13 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Yep, I believe they cause more harm then good.
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07-24-2011, 10:16 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Hi Norm4015,
I'm pretty sure I would see a 4 or 8 inch slide creep using my mirrors and I'm positive I would have heard it in the form of excessive wind noise long before that. I also think that with that much creep the problem is most likely a slide mechanism failure (hydrualic or electric) and repair would solve the problem.
Todd
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07-24-2011, 02:57 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Think you need to assess the replies and make your own decision. Remember you dont have a 3000 lb hydraulic restraint on today's slides. I previously owned a 08 Cambria. All slide mechanisms were electric as are most on all Winnebago RVs now. I wonder if the gear on the electric motor shaft is all that is restraining the slide. Winn puts two electric locks on their Class A diesel slides that use the same electric slide mechanisms / motors. I suspect that they would not spend those $$$$ if they were unnecessary and they would have been eliminated in their cost cutting initiatives. The final decision is yours.
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