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02-22-2011, 09:53 PM
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New DP owner her so...I know this has been discussed before... but I don't seem to be able to fill up using the trucker pumps. 100 gal tank can only seem to get 3/4 to 9/8 full?
Foaming?
Any easy soulutions?
2007 Winne Tour 36 ft 400 HP ISL?
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02-22-2011, 09:59 PM
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If you stick the nozzle all the way in and let it rip it will do the automatic shut off thing early, you have to hold the nozzle opening near the bottom of the filler neck to fill higher. You will also find a data plate on all diesel fuel tanks that are stamped "do not fill over 90%" or some words extremely close to that.
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02-22-2011, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxman1
..100 gal tank can only seem to get 3/4 to 9/8 full?
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I'd say 9/8 is very full.
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02-22-2011, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NLOVNIT
I'd say 9/8 is very full.
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DOOH  7/8th's
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02-22-2011, 11:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnRR
If you stick the nozzle all the way in and let it rip it will do the automatic shut off thing early, you have to hold the nozzle opening near the bottom of the filler neck to fill higher. You will also find a data plate on all diesel fuel tanks that are stamped "do not fill over 90%" or some words extremely close to that.
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I will try that, and will also try it at a "regular" smaller, gas station, pump and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks,
Andy
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02-23-2011, 07:20 AM
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I level my coach, open the second fill cap to cut down on the foaming, and slow down the fill rate as it approaches full. Works for me.
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02-23-2011, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnRR
If you stick the nozzle all the way in and let it rip it will do the automatic shut off thing early, you have to hold the nozzle opening near the bottom of the filler neck to fill higher. You will also find a data plate on all diesel fuel tanks that are stamped "do not fill over 90%" or some words extremely close to that.
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Huh? Never heard of such a thing. I think the OP's problem is one common to Freightliners of that year group (like mine). The tank isn't vented well enough, and the only way to fill it completely is to do it slowly, or hold the nozzle a bit away from the filler tube. I always fill my tank completely. BTW, I try to find the standard diesel pump instead of the high-pressure pump, it works much better and actually fills the tank faster because it doesn't continually click the pump off. This problem is discussed in other forums, you can try a search.
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02-23-2011, 08:43 PM
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Huh? Never heard of such a thing. I think the OP's problem is one common to Freightliners of that year group (like mine). The tank isn't vented well enough, and the only way to fill it completely is to do it slowly, or hold the nozzle a bit away from the filler tube. I always fill my tank completely. BTW, I try to find the standard diesel pump instead of the high-pressure pump, it works much better and actually fills the tank faster because it doesn't continually click the pump off. This problem is discussed in other forums, you can try a search.
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You and I are saying the same thing fill it slower if you let it rip and fill fast it shuts down automatically before it has a chance to fill.
I used the bottom of the neck as a reference point rather than having the nozzle down farther into the tank which would also shut it off at a lower level. Truck renters do this all the time fill it to the shut off point and stop there which is usually several gallons below full.
The fast pumps will certainly shut it off sooner also.
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02-23-2011, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnRR
If you stick the nozzle all the way in and let it rip it will do the automatic shut off thing early, you have to hold the nozzle opening near the bottom of the filler neck to fill higher. You will also find a data plate on all diesel fuel tanks that are stamped "do not fill over 90%" or some words extremely close to that.
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Sure you dont mean the propane tank? I know propane is rarely filled more than 80%
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02-23-2011, 11:39 PM
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Sure you dont mean the propane tank? I know propane is rarely filled more than 80%
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I'm referring to diesel fuel tanks on MH or saddle tanks on a truck tractor as well as saddle or step type gas tanks on trucks, not gas or diesel on pick up trucks. It's a federal requirement on all side mounted new fuel tanks even mounted between the frame rails of a DP.
This is the quickest picture I could find.
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02-24-2011, 12:18 AM
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I have ITASCA Meridian 2004 which should be the same as yours. Make sure the fuel vent hose on top of the tank is not pinched or plugged. You can also straighten out some of the bends going from the filler cap to the tank. Also check to make sure the filler pipe has not sagged below the tank entrance. make sure the filler vent hose has not sagged below the level of the filler hose. I also aim the nozzel toward the rear of the coach and do not insert it all the way into the filler opening.
I have done all the things I have suggested and it now takes the the fuel with no problem.
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02-24-2011, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnRR
I'm referring to diesel fuel tanks on MH or saddle tanks on a truck tractor as well as saddle or step type gas tanks on trucks, not gas or diesel on pick up trucks. It's a federal requirement on all side mounted new fuel tanks even mounted between the frame rails of a DP.
This is the quickest picture I could find.
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Thanks john... never noticed that before....?
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02-24-2011, 06:22 PM
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For those of us with the Freightliner computers, it will tell me how much diesel fuel I consumed since last fillup. I check this before fueling, so I know (approximately) how much fuel the tank will take.
The last 10 gallons or so I slow it down to the slow notch on the nozzle. I generally get it to fill to 100% + of what the computer tells me, as this minimizes the foaming when the tank reaches full.
I also prefer the smaller nozzle over the larger fuel pump nozzles. So it takes a few extra minutes. I generally avoid fuel spitting back out at me this way.
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02-24-2011, 08:21 PM
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One of the problems with motor homes is this
Car fuel tank design
\____
Where the \ is the filler pipe and ____ is the tank
Motor home
-----_________{ }
Where --__ is the filler and { } is the tank
You might notice that's a long, nearly flat, run
If you do not have two filler caps.. Try dropping the jack nearest the filler cap.. Tilting the coach away from the pump.
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