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10-01-2017, 01:40 PM
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Generator won't start with the remote switch.
I posted this in the other Winnebago forum and it was suggested that this one might get more input.
Like the title says, my remote generator start is not working. Neither the one in the cockpit nor the one on the monitor and switch panel (don't know what that one is called).
I cleaned the connector at the generator and at the same time jumped the correct pins to prove that the generator will start via the remote connector. It does. And by the way the remote stop switch works as does the indicator lite in the cockpit switch.
The wiring diagram indicates that the start wire is stamped 'LL'. The connector at the generator has a number ending in 'LL'. The cockpit switch has a different wire number ending in 'LL' and the one in the back of the coach has yet a different wire number ending in 'LL'. This tells me that the 'LL' wires must be joined somewhere. The schematic seems to indicate there is a connection under the galley. I've looked there as well as under the shower where there are a ton of wires including one with the illusive 'LL' (from the monitor and switch panel above") No connector.
After all this, my questions are. Has anyone had the same problem? Where did you find the connector or rather the bad connection. By the way, I checked the continuity from the generator connector to the cockpit switch and the wire is open.
This issue will not slow down any trips we have planned, but it's a pain to go the generator and open it up to start, just for my morning toast after an hour or two of driving!! Plus it's just not right.
This morning I took the shelving out from under the washroom sink but still no 'LL' wire connector.
Thanks in advance to all the fine knowledgeable people on this forum
Stan
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10-01-2017, 06:04 PM
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Most techs would do the tests you've done and then just string a new wire from the connector at the gen to the closest switch in the loop.
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10-01-2017, 07:39 PM
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From my generator the wire goes about two feet to reach its first connection. Get under your generator and you may see a corroded plug.
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10-01-2017, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Monacoach
From my generator the wire goes about two feet to reach its first connection. Get under your generator and you may see a corroded plug.
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I crawled under the rig this afternoon and the wires go from the connector at the generator all the way to the doghouse. Or at least that's how it looked to me. That's where I stopped looking 'cause I was tuckered out. I shall look under the doghouse and up under the dash tomorrow.
I like the idea of running a separate wire parallel to the offending one to the first switch (which is the one in the hallway), but the stubborn me wants to find out why it won't work.
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10-01-2017, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Switchflicke
I crawled under the rig this afternoon and the wires go from the connector at the generator all the way to the doghouse. Or at least that's how it looked to me. That's where I stopped looking 'cause I was tuckered out. I shall look under the doghouse and up under the dash tomorrow.
I like the idea of running a separate wire parallel to the offending one to the first switch (which is the one in the hallway), but the stubborn me wants to find out why it won't work.
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I'm all in favor of finding the actual cause, but...remember the law of diminishing returns.
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10-01-2017, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Switchflicke
I crawled under the rig this afternoon and the wires go from the connector at the generator all the way to the doghouse. Or at least that's how it looked to me. That's where I stopped looking 'cause I was tuckered out. I shall look under the doghouse and up under the dash tomorrow.
I like the idea of running a separate wire parallel to the offending one to the first switch (which is the one in the hallway), but the stubborn me wants to find out why it won't work.
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Sorry I didnt realize your genny was at the back.
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10-02-2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_HiTek
I'm all in favor of finding the actual cause, but...remember the law of diminishing returns.
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Yes....but.... I'm practicing 'cause my social director will soon be reminding me of those very laws  . And I'm just about ready to bring out the spool of wire. I don't think I would have thought of that repair scheme by myself. Thanks and I like your Blog too.
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10-02-2017, 07:40 PM
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After following the illusive 'LL' wire from the generator all the way to the front of the coach and then across the back of the engine (in a U shaped metal support) and then up to under the dash where it disappeared with a hundred million other lookalikes ... I stopped looking.
I followed Jim_HiTek's suggestion and spliced a wire from near the generator connector to under the shower floor where a bundle of wires go up the wall to the Gen Start/Stop switch. All in 3/8 loom and neatly tyewrapped. Now the generator will start and stop using the switch in the hallway or the one on the dash.
So ,thanks for the replies and maybe I can be of help to someone in the future.
Stan
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10-02-2017, 08:07 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...=19X1FHG8I04J3
The cost of signal tracers is in the range of non professionals now. These can be very entertaining.
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10-02-2017, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Switchflicke
After following the illusive 'LL' wire from the generator all the way to the front of the coach and then across the back of the engine (in a U shaped metal support) and then up to under the dash where it disappeared with a hundred million other lookalikes ... I stopped looking.
I followed Jim_HiTek's suggestion and spliced a wire from near the generator connector to under the shower floor where a bundle of wires go up the wall to the Gen Start/Stop switch. All in 3/8 loom and neatly tyewrapped. Now the generator will start and stop using the switch in the hallway or the one on the dash.
So ,thanks for the replies and maybe I can be of help to someone in the future.
Stan
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Good to hear you got it fixed. Glad to have given you an idea that worked for you. Oh, and thanks for the compliment about my blog. Hope to have you as a regular reader.
Jim
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