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Old 06-27-2011, 08:25 AM   #1
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INFO: I am looking for 50A power -which used Winnebagos/Itasca's have it?

Hello everyone,
we are shopping for a used gas class-A RV; our budget is 50K (that is really the ceiling), which generally puts us into the 2003-2005 model year ranges.

50A service is on my list of requirements; which Winnebago/Itascas have 50A service? The brochures aren't clear.

For example, I see the 2003 Winnebago Brave and Adventurer both have an optional 50A power cord, but 30A is standard. Does this mean that the coach is a 50A coach and all you would need to do is purchase a 50A power cord?

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Old 06-27-2011, 08:36 AM   #2
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Unfortunately the short answer is no. 50A service requires a new breaker panel, transfer switch (if equipped) and upgraded wiring from the cord junction box/transfer switch to the breaker panel.

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Old 06-27-2011, 08:39 AM   #3
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Hello everyone,
we are shopping for a used gas class-A RV; our budget is 50K (that is really the ceiling), which generally puts us into the 2003-2005 model year ranges.

50A service is on my list of requirements; which Winnebago/Itascas have 50A service? The brochures aren't clear.

For example, I see the 2003 Winnebago Brave and Adventurer both have an optional 50A power cord, but 30A is standard. Does this mean that the coach is a 50A coach and all you would need to do is purchase a 50A power cord?

Thank you
No, what it means is 50 amp was an option that you could order when the rig was new. You should be able to get into the 2006-2007 year range for $50,000. Look on E-bay just to get an Idea of whats out there for sale.

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Old 06-27-2011, 08:45 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info.

Campingman - I've been watching Ebay closely as well as the ad services, but haven't found 2006-2007s in that range. In the auctions, some start at 50K, but they go up from there. I'm also trying to limit my range to around 1000 miles from home (Charlotte, NC).

Do you have any advice to pass on?
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My 02 Adventurer had the optional 50amp service, not just a 50a cord but actually 50a throughout. It's a factory option, just like a car, you would have to look at the build sheet of the motorhome, or the motorhome itself, to see if it is included. The brochures list 50a as an option. Some options are found on almost all models, other options are more rare. Good hunting.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:58 PM   #6
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Unfortunately 50 amp power wasn't standard in the Adventurer until 2007. It was an option as far back as at least 2001. We ordered our 2001 Adventurer with the 50 amp service. It certainly is a plus and we would never get another coach without at least that much power.
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If you have the coach s/n Winny should be able to tell you which. But I would also double check the cord and breaker box before buying.
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Actually, the equipment in a 30-amp Winnebago can support 50 amps. At least, mine did. If you are competent with electricity, you can convert it, but it is much more involved than getting a new cord. Do a search on this site. There are several threads that discuss it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:15 AM   #9
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Thanks for the information. I'll be sure to verify each time.
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My 03 Suncruiser had the option and the original owner made the decision to have it installed. Now I see that is a very desired option to have. I just figured that everyone would take that option if given the option. I have actually had every heavy use appliance running when on 50amp shore power along with both compressors in the AC so I know it was just not the 50 amp chord.
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Yes, I've had some salesemen tell me 'you don't really need it' or 'how often will you need it', as they try to sell me the coach they have that is 30A.

Of course, I'm sure if they have a 50A coach, the tune will change 'you should never buy anything without 50A hookups'.
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Most of the time you can get away with 30 amps. If you're someplace hot and running both compressors, there's not a lot left for anything else. The EMS that Winnebago uses will keep you out of trouble unless you are running a hair dryer, blender, and toaster all at the same time.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:21 AM   #13
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You're from Texas, and I'm in the South - 'always hot' is understood.

I'm sure I can get by with it, especially with EMS systems to handle load balancing - people did just fine without EMS and 20/30A for years - but I'm looking at desirability at resale as well.

I figure if I am so picky about it, there are a lot of other people who will be as well.
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I'm sure I can get by with it, especially with EMS systems to handle load balancing - people did just fine without EMS and 20/30A for years - but I'm looking at desirability at resale as well..
lemosley01, When you get a 50A coach you are actually getting a 100A service with 2 - 50A legs. Now that's something that is undeniably a big plus.
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Hi Ho: DriVer is right, you are comparing 30 to 100 amps. The generator is also usually larger than 5500 watts for 100 amp coaches. Having said that we don't find 30 amps to be a serious problem.

You should get a very nice coach for $50k these days.
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lemosley01, When you get a 50A coach you are actually getting a 100A service with 2 - 50A legs. Now that's something that is undeniably a big plus.
Yep, a 50 amp coach actually has 12,000 watts available rather than 3,600 watts of the 30 amp circuit.
120V X 50A X 2 = 12,000 watts
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120V X 30 X 1 = 3.600 watts

This is why it's hard to change to a true 50 amp service as the panel must be rewired and circuits split or combined correctly to get the full benefit. More work than most owner are capable of or want to tackle.

Much more power to run things, although we did stay at a reservation campground that advertised 50 amp hookups where one leg was 30 amps and the other was 20 which did give 50 amps (or 6,000 watts), but not the true 50 amps on each leg
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:15 AM   #17
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It was a factory option from 2001. Changing it yourself is not cost effective. I did install an independent 20 A line for use in campgrounds that have 30A & 20 A on the same post. Some have 20-30-50 A on single post. I was able to run additional electrical equipment with great results with my system. If I were to order from the factory it would be the 50A syst. There is little chance you will not know when you come across a coach with 50A power, the size of the power cord will be your first clue.
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Hi Ho: DriVer is right, you are comparing 30 to 100 amps. The generator is also usually larger than 5500 watts for 100 amp coaches. Having said that we don't find 30 amps to be a serious problem.

You should get a very nice coach for $50k these days.
The only generator available on our 2001 Adventurer was the Onan 5,500 watt, even though we bought the 50 amp shore power option. Up to 2011 the only generator still available on the Adventurer is 5,500 watts. Since 2007 50 amp shore power has been standard on the Adventurer.
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Up to 2011 the only generator still available on the Adventurer is 5,500 watts..
Hikerdogs, I am in possession of an OEM installed, Onan Gold 7,000 watt gasoline powered generator since model year 2003 on my Winnebago Adventurer Model 38G.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:16 PM   #20
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Why do they call it a 50 Amp outlet if it's actually 100 Amp?? Perhaps it should be called 2 phase 50 Amp??
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