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Old 01-29-2019, 07:27 AM   #1
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Journey headlight upgrade

Headlights have always been minimal at best.
Ordered new housings and also new low beam LEDs.
They fit in the housing and I have now ordered high beams as well

Will update when the install is complete
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Please do with pictures if possible. What year is your Journey??
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In your update, please include what you had to do to remove and replace the headlight housings. On my ‘07 Journey, access to the backside of the headlight housing to replace the bulb is almost impossible because of limited space. Research I’ve done says the headlight housings on this series of Journeys an Meridians were originally used in a 90’s Model Pontiac.
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Headlights have always been minimal at best.
Ordered new housings and also new low beam LEDs.
They fit in the housing and I have now ordered high beams as well

Will update when the install is complete
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Since you don't say much about the history of your lights before you started this change over, if you haven't already, may I suggest a test or two? One, if you have one and know how to use it, break out your trusty Volt Ohm Meter and set it to 12VDC. Back pin (probe the backside) of the plug that hooks to your headlight, where the wire that powers the low beam, with the positive lead. Make sure you have the negative lead attached to a known, good ground. Now, without the engine running, turn on the low beams.

Take a reading of the available volts that actually gets to that bulb. Now, start the engine and, take the same reading, noting any differences. You see, it's a known factor that, on many, many chassis's of motor homes, there is quite a bit of voltage loss to the headlights for at least THREE prime reasons.

1. The length of the wiring harness from power, to the bulb.
2. The gauge of the wire, IN that harness
3. It's quite often that, the power for that bulb, is ran through the switch, but not always. Because the headlight switch in many vehicles CANNOT handle the power needed for headlights, there is less power available to those headlights.

And finally, depending on what kind of voltage you find at the backside of the headlight plug, you may need another test. If, you find say, less than 13v or, maybe even 12.5V, a real and final test would be to string up, directly from your chassis battery, a 10GA wire, to the back side of that headlight plug. If you start your engine, and turn the headlight low beams on, and note the brightness, then, figure out how to feed the backside of that plug to the low beam connection, I'd bet my house your headlights will go considerably brighter. It's because, you're loosing voltage due to the reasons mentioned above.

Now, all this is gonna have the same, EXACT affect, on new, LED bulbs. The more voltage they see, the brighter they will be. This is all just some suggestions. Good luck.
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Please do with pictures if possible. What year is your Journey??
Says in his sig, an '04.
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Update

JFC1. Our coach is a 2004

Fleetman, You are correct. The housings are form a 98 Pontiac Grand Am. I had to remove 3. 10mm bolts and the housing slid out the front. All of the parts should be here Friday--so it's a Saturday install job. I will post pics when I get started again.

Scott. Great information!! I had the same issue on a Safari Trek and the relays made a huge difference. I did check voltage prior to ordering new lights and was getting 13.8 at the bulb.

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JFC1. Our coach is a 2004

Fleetman, You are correct. The housings are form a 98 Pontiac Grand Am. I had to remove 3. 10mm bolts and the housing slid out the front. All of the parts should be here Friday--so it's a Saturday install job. I will post pics when I get started again.

Scott. Great information!! I had the same issue on a Safari Trek and the relays made a huge difference. I did check voltage prior to ordering new lights and was getting 13.8 at the bulb.

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Well Sir, sounds like you've been down this road before. Good to know. Good luck on your upgrade. Let us all know how things turn out or, ON so to speak.
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Please post pictures of where the 10mm bolts are ive looked at my meridian no room to remove bulbs from rear and i'd like to replace the yellow turn signal bulbs. thanks John
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Please post pictures of where the 10mm bolts are ive looked at my meridian no room to remove bulbs from rear and i'd like to replace the yellow turn signal bulbs. thanks John
Look in from the front and you will see the 10 mm nuts, two on one side of the headlight assembly and one on the other side. If like on mine, they may be hard to see at first and perhaps pretty hard to get to. It seems the headlight assemblies were mounted to the Winnebago body cage before the front end cap was attached. My driver side nuts look to be easily removed, the passenger side, not so easy. The fiberglass lip may have to be ‘finessed’ a bit.
A thin 1/4 inch extension and socket is what I think would be the best tools to use. The bolt looks like it is either pressed in or spot welded in place so the nut should come off easily.
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install update

On my rig the headlight assembly was held in place with 2 10mm bolts.
I was able to remove the ones closest to the center of the rig by standing in the front.

The other 2 were removed by sitting under the rig, looking forward. You have to feel your way around to find the bolt.

The assembly can then be slid out the front.

I installed the new led's and put everything back together.

I still have to adjust the lights--waiting on rain to stop
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I just installed the same lights this weekend. You are going to be very pleased with the difference.
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Great thread, and project.

So does anyone know what lamps/housings might fit my 2002? They are the old round seal-beam headlights.
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Great thread, and project.

So does anyone know what lamps/housings might fit my 2002? They are the old round seal-beam headlights.

Bill, locate the DOT code on theheadlight housing and do some computer searches using it. You should come up Year and model vehicles that used it.
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Great thread, and project.

So does anyone know what lamps/housings might fit my 2002? They are the old round seal-beam headlights.


Here are a couple of choices if yours is like mine and has the 7" round sealed beams.

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs...&storeId=10001

https://www.jwspeaker.com/products/l...8700-evo-2-db/
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