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11-09-2015, 12:11 PM
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Winnebago Camper
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Michelin vs Toyo on 22.5 workhorse
I hear a lot of pros and cons on these tires. Would like to really know before I go out and purchase the 235x 80 x22.5
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11-09-2015, 12:19 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Glendora Ca.
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I went to Toyo from Michelin 6 months ago and I'm happy with the ride and handling.
And I expect them to live longer!
Mike
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Blueox, SMI, 1990 Wrangler YJ
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11-09-2015, 12:23 PM
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Winnie-Wise
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Location: Madison, MS
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Mike: what size are the toyo?
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11-09-2015, 12:32 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
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Made the switch to Toyo's 3 plus years ago and am still satisfied. My Michelin's started cracking in under 2 years, the Toyo's still look new.
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Wayne & Roberta and Maggie the Miracle Dog
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis
Making the Journey in our Destination
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11-09-2015, 12:36 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Glendora Ca.
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Ed, They are 245/75R 22.5
Mike
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11-09-2015, 01:41 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: So Cal
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Michelin vs toyo
Why do some claim bad handling?
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11-09-2015, 06:20 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Anacortes, Wa
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I went to the Toyo's earlier this year. I'm more that satisfied as they ride better and have increased grip on wet roads. No more overpriced Michelins for me.
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11-09-2015, 06:22 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsrtrider
Why do some claim bad handling?
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Where did you see this?
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Wayne & Roberta and Maggie the Miracle Dog
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis
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11-10-2015, 08:16 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: So Cal
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Michelin vs Toyo
I saw it on some of the other websites. Where did people buy their Toyos and what price did they pay? My local Allen Tire dealer wont install them because the size doesnt match the placard.
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11-10-2015, 08:47 AM
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Winnie-Wise
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Location: Madison, MS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsrtrider
I saw it on some of the other websites. Where did people buy their Toyos and what price did they pay? My local Allen Tire dealer wont install them because the size doesnt match the placard.
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There is almost NO difference between the two sizes mentioned in this thread. Their lawyers must be really strict.
You will want to find an installer that has the ability to spin balance a 22.5" tire- not all can do so. Otherwise, you'll need powder or balancing beads.
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11-10-2015, 10:10 AM
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Winnie-Wise
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I bought mine at Les Schwab in Oregon. Mine are a larger size so the price would be different.
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11-10-2015, 11:40 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2012
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Bought mine from Les Schwab in my home town. New stems, powder and mounted all 6 for just under $2300.
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11-10-2015, 12:59 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: So Cal
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tires
anybody know what the difference is between the michelin xrv and xze?
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11-10-2015, 01:10 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Toyo tires
I purchased Toyo tires for my 05 Itasca Horizon and absolutely loved them.
I have recently read that Toyo has a casing life of aprox 10 years compared to Michelin with aprox 5 to 6 years. I am currently changing my current coach to Toyo Tires as they seem more stable and have a stronger sidewall
My opinion only, but I buy what keeps me and my family safe
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11-10-2015, 01:31 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Glendora Ca.
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I believe XZE is truck tire with more thread depth and heavier side wall. Did not last one day longer than XRV for me.
Mike
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11-17-2015, 07:47 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Dec 2010
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I just had 4 XRV's installed on my coach and 2 XZE's. The XZE is more of a truck tire but seems relatively the same ride as the XRV. My problem was, I couldn't locate any XRV's with a recent date stamp on them.
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11-17-2015, 07:51 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
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I prefer Michelin but I doubt you will find much difference other than price.
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11-20-2015, 06:55 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsrtrider
I hear a lot of pros and cons on these tires. Would like to really know before I go out and purchase the 235x 80 x22.5
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I have been working in the rubber and tire industry for over 25 years. I call on and meet with the chemist and engineers at most all of the major tire manufacturers.
Here is what I have learned over the years:
1. The majority of us will age out before we wear out. Once a tire is 7 years past it's manufacture date (found on the sidewall) it should be replace no matter what the wear is. The chemicals, adhesives, and compounds use to build the tire begin to breakdown after 7 years.
2. Exposure to UV rays will naturally breakdown the rubber compounds due to the ozone. Covering tires as much as possible while outside will prolong the external cracking that many of you see. Also these compound have wax mixed in which is a built in cover that blooms to the surface. Washing your tires frequently will speed the depletion on the wax. Once this wax is gone the cracking starts very soon.
3. Weighing your coach (fully Loaded) and setting the air pressure accordingly will keep tires operating properly and avoid damage to the tire that may not be able to be seen.
All this being said I believe that the brand of tire you prefer is a matter of preference and what you are comfortable with. The most important thing is to get the most current date code you can find. Keep them inflated based on the loaded weight of your coach. Cover them when ever you can when exposed to UV rays. Don't wash your tires to frequently.
I personally run TPMS so I can monitor pressures and temperatures in real time.
I hope this helps.
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Tom & Denise N
2016 Winnebago Forza 36G Freightliner XS-C, Cummins 340HP, 2011 Ford Edge
Uniontown, OH
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04-16-2017, 09:46 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forza Tom
I have been working in the rubber and tire industry for over 25 years. I call on and meet with the chemist and engineers at most all of the major tire manufacturers.
Here is what I have learned over the years:
1. The majority of us will age out before we wear out. Once a tire is 7 years past it's manufacture date (found on the sidewall) it should be replace no matter what the wear is. The chemicals, adhesives, and compounds use to build the tire begin to breakdown after 7 years.
2. Exposure to UV rays will naturally breakdown the rubber compounds due to the ozone. Covering tires as much as possible while outside will prolong the external cracking that many of you see. Also these compound have wax mixed in which is a built in cover that blooms to the surface. Washing your tires frequently will speed the depletion on the wax. Once this wax is gone the cracking starts very soon.
3. Weighing your coach (fully Loaded) and setting the air pressure accordingly will keep tires operating properly and avoid damage to the tire that may not be able to be seen.
All this being said I believe that the brand of tire you prefer is a matter of preference and what you are comfortable with. The most important thing is to get the most current date code you can find. Keep them inflated based on the loaded weight of your coach. Cover them when ever you can when exposed to UV rays. Don't wash your tires to frequently.
I personally run TPMS so I can monitor pressures and temperatures in real time.
I hope this helps.
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Tom: Quick question if I may. I just bought the EEZ RV TPMS and am about to install it on my 2016 Forza 36G. What tire pressure do you run f/r on your rig and what have you used for the high/low range for your tpms?
Thanks
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2016 Winnebago Forza 36G
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04-16-2017, 10:27 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsrtrider
I saw it on some of the other websites. Where did people buy their Toyos and what price did they pay? My local Allen Tire dealer wont install them because the size doesnt match the placard.
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I have also run into tire dealers that would only replace Michelin's sizes with Michelin sizes (I think Bridgestone used same sizing, as they are made by Michelin). I went to another dealer that understood the proper equivalent and we're ok to do so. I don't blame the dealers who would not, it's their business desician.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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