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Old 12-20-2012, 04:50 PM   #15
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Short story.. My brother had the STOP ENGINE light come on on his Semi Tractor once several years ago, I pulled off on the shoulder RIGHT NOW (he had just exited a freeway) and the trucker in front of him was on the radio WHOOEEEEEE! IT' like the clown car at the circus with the flames shooting out from under the hood!!!.

Well he got stopped, safely, popped the hook and took a look (he is a diesel mechanic, i'm not) and determined a new enigne was the order of the day, Hopped a ride with the other driver to the truck stop and called Detroit Diesel (Since it was under warranty)

They dropped his buddy's trailer and went back for his, The tow truck was there already, Towed his trialer to the truck stop and re-connected his buddy's to his tractor.

DD flew a new engine, and technician to install it. to the repair shop the tow truck took it to and 24 hours later he was, as the song goes, "On the road again".

Sometimes when it says STOP ENGINE.. It's not kidding.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:36 PM   #16
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If the light was yellow it is a check engine light which if your fluid in your surge tank was low would turn to red and a stop engine error...the Freightliner will give you 30 seconds before shutting down the engine.

If the computer did say "check coolant level" just over fill a couple quarts past the full mark if the coolant wasnt low...it will hurt nothing and will remedy the sensor error.

disclaimer...dont try this at home...
If you are in an area there's no way to pull over before the red Stop Engine light comes on put the tranny in neutral ...turn off key..restart engine and error is gone. Remember you have no power steering for about 2 secs.

I put up with this problem almost 3 years till Freightliner told me to just over fill the surge tank by 2 quarts of coolant.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:48 PM   #17
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Been there and done that. Yes STOP ENGINE while on a grade and pull over and it went off. Called Frieghtliner and tech said it most likely was the coolant level. He indicated to over fill the expansion tank about 1/2 to 3/4" when cold and see if it solved it. Yes it did and has never re occured since over 22,000 miles. Later discussing it with a cummins shop they told me the sensor was installed for forward facing engines which creates the problem??????
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:55 PM   #18
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On my Winnie with the Cummins 340 I had the stop engine light come on. I was at a red light about 50 yards before a major interchange of highways. I told the wife I had to pull over as the engine was going to shut down, but I never got the chance. It shut me down right there, and the stop engine light and console stated, "Low Coolant." Well the coolant was at the proper level and I put some more in just in case. No go! Got towed to Cummins dealer.

They found a broken pin in the engine harness and fixed it. It just took some time for that broken pin to loose contact. So all is not what it seems when the stop engine light comes on.

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Old 12-21-2012, 04:08 PM   #19
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I pulled over right now when mine came on, shut it down and called Freightliner from my cell phone. 80 miles to go to get the Winnebago Factory where I was heading. They told me to go ahead as shutting it down rebooted the light. It turned out to be a bad sensor and appearently that is a common problem.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:04 PM   #20
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Many thanks to everyone for all the info. Ummmm, we are mechanically challenged so could you tell me what we will be looking for in terms of how to check the coolant, where do I actually add it if it is needed, and what kind do I need to add. Thanks.
Hey there limrealestat - how did this turn out? I'm enjoying the posts but really would like to hear how your situation turned out!! I'm still betting coolant.

Clearly a stop engine light is nothing to fool with but circumstances are a key consideration. Your circumstance pointed to a known problem to many. Now had you said you were driving through the flattest part of West Texas and the stop engine light come on I would not have posted. And, your post would probably have been quite different. Just saying - but please let us know what happened. We all hope you're not holed up in a Motel 6 with your rig in the shop for the holiday season.
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We made it to our park in Branson and don't have it all figured it out yet. We're here until January 3rd, but the last 15 miles of our trip in, the light didn't come on again. As soon as we figure out how to check the coolant, and where to add it, we will give that a try, but still won't be driving it until January 3rd. This is our first MH (first RV ever) and we've only been full-timing for 18 months. We are both mechanical idiots and we've searched all our manuals and nothing indicates where to check or fill coolant. We're hoping as we make a few friends in the park, someone will be able to show us how to do this.

Thanks for worrying. It's refreshing.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:35 AM   #22
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Kim,

As an after thought, I have a person that frequents this forum once in a while and maybe he can expound on this.

He was traveling and had the "Low Collant" stop engine light come on. He called Freightliner and they told him that there was a plug just behind the coolant fill tank that has come loose on a few coaches. They said to reach back behind the coolant fill tank and make sure all the connections are snapped in place.

Worth a try.

Same thing with under the dash. Check to see if all the harnesses are snapped tightly.


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We made it to our park in Branson and don't have it all figured it out yet. We're here until January 3rd, but the last 15 miles of our trip in, the light didn't come on again. As soon as we figure out how to check the coolant, and where to add it, we will give that a try, but still won't be driving it until January 3rd. This is our first MH (first RV ever) and we've only been full-timing for 18 months. We are both mechanical idiots and we've searched all our manuals and nothing indicates where to check or fill coolant. We're hoping as we make a few friends in the park, someone will be able to show us how to do this.

Thanks for worrying. It's refreshing.
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There are many here that will attempt to follow a post like yours to ground. It's a twofold adventure. 1) try to help a fellow RVer 2) learn something along the way. So no worries.

Not a Winnie owner so someone else can be specific but on most DPs you open the "grill" and the fill cap should be up top somewhere marked coolant. You can probably find a source coolant nearby. For Cummins you can buy fully formulated (premixed 50/50 water/antifreeze) Fleetguard Compleat by the gallon - $15-$20 per. Get 2 and maybe open the engine door and stand there scratching head - or ask people at CG office. They are usually friendly and RV people.

Merry Christmas. And don't forget to update results. Btw - resolve earlier than later just in case.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:25 AM   #24
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In this view of the back end of your Tour chassis the plastic coolant overflow tank filled with red coolant is at the upper left (with a faint red circle around it). It should be on the upper right when standing behind the coach looking forward. There should be LOW and HIGH level marks of some kind on the plastic tank and a fill cap on top.

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I agree completely with SNAPPYS post. Having experienced a check engine light and speaking with Cummins and Spartan both said," check engine light, get to a service center and run the diagnostic code." Stop engine, I was told means stop engine, call for roadside assistance and go directly to a qualified approved service facility! Just repeating instructions from the manufactures. In our case it was low coolant, loose clamps on the coolant lines.
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So here's my question - and I mean this sincerely - going down the mountain with no place to stop - should I stop right there in the road or continue to a safe place? It was the OPs feeling there was no safe place and when he arrived at one the light went off.

I'm serious - do I stop on grade, in my lane and call a Coachnet? Never mind if I would add some coolant and give er another try in this circumstance.
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So here's my question - and I mean this sincerely - going down the mountain with no place to stop - should I stop right there in the road or continue to a safe place? It was the OPs feeling there was no safe place and when he arrived at one the light went off.

I'm serious - do I stop on grade, in my lane and call a Coachnet? Never mind if I would add some coolant and give er another try in this circumstance.
If the coach is running, keep driving it to the nearest safe spot and pull over, and stop the engine.

Stopping on a grade in your lane may cause an accident. Not worth it.

I have had the Stop Engine Light come on a couple times. In my Cummins powered coach, it literally stopped the engine. In this case, it was sensing low oil pressure. In my CAT powered coach, it did not stop the engine. I had the code read by Freightliner, and it was a turbo low boost code. Turns out it was a sticky valve which corrected itself.

As you have read above, there are a lot of mundane reasons why the Stop Engine Light might come on. Depending on what code it throws, if it's serious and might harm the engine, I'm betting the engine will shut itself down.

Have the code read by either Freightliner or Cummins (if it's a Cummins). They will tell you if you have an issue or not.
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It turned out to be a bad sensor and appearently that is a common problem.
Been there. Done that.

We spent several months "topping off" our coolant, but the check engine/stop engine/shutdown episodes became more frequent (and more frustrating).

Finally had Freightliner take a look at it. They couldn't find the problem. (Honestly, I think they assumed we had been running on low coolant.) But, we connected them with Freightliner Custom Chassis in Gaffney who quickly identified the problem as a bad low coolant sensor, which was easily replaced. FCCC indicated it was a common problem.

The 40TD floorplan is great for fulltiming! We've been in ours for 3 years. Safe travels!

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