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03-13-2011, 07:03 PM
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I have a Class A Itasca Sunova. Is it absolutely necessary to have a surge protector on the coach?
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03-13-2011, 07:21 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Sonoma County, CA
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My first Coach lost all of the electronics and in this one I lost the Microwave and Dish receiver due to faulty power. I now have a surge guard and won't plug in to shore power without one.
Some will tell you they have never had a problem without one. You will have to make the decision if you want to take the risk or not.
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03-13-2011, 07:22 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Tiffin Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipaulfla
I have a Class A Itasca Sunova. Is it absolutely necessary to have a surge protector on the coach?
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Surge Protectors are like insurance. You hope you never need it but are glad you have it when you do need it.
We were camping at the Georgia Veterans State Park in Cordelle, GA when a new Class A Motor Home pulled into a site. When he hooked up his electric it blew every system in the coach. I can't say if a surge protector would have prevented it but after seeing that I went out and purchased one.
Good Luck,
Jon
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03-13-2011, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I have this 50A Hardwire | Technology Research Corporation, but if I was starting fresh I would buy this one EMS-HW50C
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03-13-2011, 07:46 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: WHITING,NJ,USA
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Sooner or later you will need it, if it happens that you need it and you don't have it you will be sorry. Its an investmemt in the well being of your coach. Its the best few hundred you will ever spend.
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03-17-2011, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipaulfla
I have a Class A Itasca Sunova. Is it absolutely necessary to have a surge protector on the coach?
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We purchased a surge protector several years ago after we almost lost all of our electronics and other 110V appliances. Before purchasing the surge protector, our 2006 Ellipse motor home received a fairly powerful surge from a lightning strike to a nearby xformer. What really saved us was the GFI plugs. Apparently, unbeknown-st to me, is that some GFI receptacles have an inherent surge protection built into the circuitry. Since the GFI receptacles are the "first" receptacle on the circuit, the GFIs stopped the surge. Go figure. How lucky. Now we have a surge protector we use every time. I think we spent about $150 for a fairly decent protector.
Dave and Cris
Motor Homers since 2005 and RVers since 1986.
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03-17-2011, 06:51 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Fleetwood Owners Club Pond Piggies Club
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IMO, you want to guard against more than just surges. You want to protect against: high/low voltage, open neutral/ground, reverse polarity & 220V. That is where an energy management system, like that sold by Progressive Industries, comes in.
We have the PI EMS-HW50C (purchased from RVupgrades, an iRV2.com Sponsor). We would've been in a world of hurt at several campgrounds if I had only a surge guard protecting my coach.
Lori-
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03-17-2011, 07:38 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Solon, Ohio USA
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We also have a surge protector on our 50 amp service that I permanently mounted in the electrical connection compartment. That way, it is protected from sticky fingers.
One thing to be aware of is a possible time delay built into the protector when it is connected to camp power. Mine has a 2-1/2 minute delay. The only frustrating issue is that when you get any trip, it takes 2-1/2 minutes for the surge protector to reconnect power each time that it trips.
On the other hand, it is providing the proper protection, so I'm happy to wait for it. I'd get one as others have said.
W8RLM - Bob
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03-18-2011, 01:16 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: KAPOLEI, HAWAII AND VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipaulfla
I have a Class A Itasca Sunova. Is it absolutely necessary to have a surge protector on the coach?
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i would not hook up my moho to shore power without one. imho the major difference in the $100 portable surge protector and the more expensive built in units is that the more expensive units have replaceable components (not by users) and the $100 ones don't. if mine stops a surge just once it will have done its job and i will replace it with a new one.
i have been using my progressive ind. 50a portable surge protector for over 3 years with good results. i also use a plug in volt meter to check pedestal voltage before connecting and then inside the moho to monitor all the time especially during high electric usage times. i don't run my air conditioner or heat pump on less that 105 volts.
the 50a protector cost me about $100, the 30a is considerably less.
the 30a and 50a both test the pedestal for proper wiring by using indicator lights. if the light pattern is wrong, i do not plug my moho power cord into the surge protector until the pedestal is fixed or i move to another spot.
SSP-50
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03-18-2011, 01:25 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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With RVs having so much electronics in them today and plugging in cells & lap tops for recharging, one must be extra cautious. One can not assume a parks electrical system is working proper. I have been at expensive Resorts to include Thousand Trails Campgrounds that advised me electricity in parts of camp areas were questionable. That is why I have a permanent in-line Surge Suppressor in my coach which also monitors high and low voltage.
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03-18-2011, 08:46 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Another vote for "you definitely need one". Too many expensive electronics in the RV and a single good surge can destroy them. We have an external one that we plug in everytime we hookup. That way if it blows we can easily replace it. Nina
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03-18-2011, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wilds of West Kentucky
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Ours saved all our 110v equipment from lightening strike damage . . . the surge protector took the hit and was immediately replaced.
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03-18-2011, 09:05 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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Location: Denmark and US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfran304
Surge Protectors are like insurance. You hope you never need it but are glad you have it when you do need it.
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Excellent answer - I think this is exactly what it is.
The majority of RV manufacturers don't think it is "a must" - otherwise they would install it on all RV's, which they don't.
We have "bought the insurance" and would do it again if we replaced our RV.
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03-26-2011, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
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So it looks as if there are several endorsements for the EMS-HW50C product. It looks as this would need to be hardwired into the coach. Is this something that a fairly handy person can do? Are there any installation specs anywhere on the internet? It looks as though the in-line surge guards you put in the power line aren't as 'protective' Thanks
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