Winnie Read These?

Belgique · 11-29-2007, 08:22 AM

Any evidence that Winne reads this forum? I ask because folks here generally like their Winnie product and generally offer constructive criticism. Most agree that Winnie makes a great product, provides excellent documentation and their folks on the phones are great. I have not a single item to be fixed on a new coach that we've put almost a thousand miles on. We bought this one because we were so happy with our Itasca.

Yet, some things persist across model years, Examples include:

CB wiring: had a heck of a time finding it on my 2001 and can't find it on my 2008. I know they don't include the antenna anymore but Winnie folks tell me the 12V is there. Yet, over the years, there is thread after thread re finding the CB wiring. It would cost nothing to tie the wire in an obvious, yet out of the way place.

Barrel chair: haven't read any posts praising them.

Fogged dual pane windows: my 2001 had them and my dealer has some on brand new units (and I know that other manufacturers have the same problem).

I'm forgetting other examples. It would be nice to know that someone there reads these and the comments are considered when making mods.

Just wondering. Steve

Belgique · 11-29-2007, 08:22 AM

Any evidence that Winne reads this forum? I ask because folks here generally like their Winnie product and generally offer constructive criticism. Most agree that Winnie makes a great product, provides excellent documentation and their folks on the phones are great. I have not a single item to be fixed on a new coach that we've put almost a thousand miles on. We bought this one because we were so happy with our Itasca.

Yet, some things persist across model years, Examples include:

CB wiring: had a heck of a time finding it on my 2001 and can't find it on my 2008. I know they don't include the antenna anymore but Winnie folks tell me the 12V is there. Yet, over the years, there is thread after thread re finding the CB wiring. It would cost nothing to tie the wire in an obvious, yet out of the way place.

Barrel chair: haven't read any posts praising them.

Fogged dual pane windows: my 2001 had them and my dealer has some on brand new units (and I know that other manufacturers have the same problem).

I'm forgetting other examples. It would be nice to know that someone there reads these and the comments are considered when making mods.

Just wondering. Steve

Tom N · 11-29-2007, 10:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Belgique:
Any evidence that Winne reads this forum? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, Winnebago monitors this forum.

-Tom

Belgique · 11-29-2007, 02:04 PM

Thanks Tom. Good news. I'd like to be able provide feedback, as a user, on tweeks that would make a great product even better without appearing to be a flamer/troll/griper. I've been involved with testing in the military and know that user "testing" (called Operational Testing in the military) is where you find things that an engineer would never think of.

Examples:

It makes sense, from an engineering point of view, to put the water pump near the source. But, when a spouse gets up and flushes the toilet at 0200 (2AM), the pump under the bed wakes up the dead.

The Jensen TV in the 35J is neat and I could like it. But, it is too small. But worse, its viewing angle is very narrow and when observed from the infamous barrel chair, it is unwatchable on many programs...looks like a color film negative.

Kudos for putting in a jack in the utility compartment for a portable satellite antenna. But, the advent of DVRs capable of recording 1 and watching another makes dual LNB's/dual RG6, necessary. This costs peanuts when assembling but difficult later.

And, my favorite: put the 12v wiring for the CB (whick I will use for GPS/Laptop/etc) in an easily findable place. This costs nothing!

Again, we love our 35J and would buy it again. NO buyers remorse. It is a fine product. From reading posts here and the other forum, I expected some issues after delivery but we've had none.

Steve

Woody · 11-29-2007, 03:34 PM

I totally agree about the dual pane windows. I have had 3 replaced on my 2005 Horizon. One that was replaced only lasted less than two weeks before its seal was gone again. Several other Winne owners have had the same problem. I think Winne and others should look for alternatives to Atwood where they are made. Atwood representatives could take some lessons on customer service as well.

GG1 · 11-29-2007, 06:02 PM

Winnie reads them but I beleive thats where it stops. The same problems continue over and over with the customer left to resolve them at his own expense. This is not a Winnie bash but a Winnie criticism.

Jeeperrmartin · 11-30-2007, 05:20 AM

Maybe they should look into making their own windows. They have the capco for the frames, all they would need would be a glass division and assembly.

I realize they are manpower tapped out in Forest City, but maybe another town like they do the woodworking.

I have 4 windows that are bad, but don't know if I want to spend $1,000 for something that might fail in another year. I feel I would rather pay for quality and not have to worry about fixing things all the time.

Jeeperrmartin · 11-30-2007, 05:22 AM

Mine is a 99 Suncruiser, and in 2007 they are still having the same problem.

NeilV · 11-30-2007, 05:38 AM

The only windows I really see problems with, and this is accross all brands not just Winnebago, is the front side glass in the cab area not the crank outs or sliders in the house area.

I was in the architectural millwork business for some years and it was SOP to have arched, paladian or triangular thermopane glass made up to match custom frames. So any local glass shop should be able to provide/order a custom thermopane replacement for these.

This type of glass however is prone to fogging regardless of the source. Even residential windows with lifetime warranties will many/most times exclude fogging from coverage.

I live in Florida and the replacement of drivers compartment glass is covered by our motor vehicle insurance for breakage and obscurity.

rebelsbeach · 11-30-2007, 05:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GG1:
Winnie reads them but I beleive thats where it stops. The same problems continue over and over with the customer left to resolve them at his own expense. This is not a Winnie bash but a Winnie criticism. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to weigh in on this comment as this is simply NOT true.
I've been privy to many instances whereby a representative of Winnebago has contacted someone through email or PM as a result of having read their issue on this forum.
I myself owned a Winnebago Vectra and was contacted by this representative several years ago when I posted an issue with the delayed delivery of my ordered unit.

While I'm sure not every issue can be handled in this manner, I do have personal knowledge that Winnebago reads and responds to folks on this forum.
Given the alternative, I think we should be thankful for what we have.

Thank you for your continued support of iRV2.

Trek-Cyclist · 11-30-2007, 05:53 AM

A simple yes we do from Winnebago would help us/me believe!

Belgique · 11-30-2007, 05:58 AM

I wish they would tell me where the CB power wires are

. They are not where the manual says or where the nice chap on the phone said. Or, if they are, they sure are hid. (But love the 35J!!!) Steve

rebelsbeach · 11-30-2007, 06:01 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ed/Full-time:
A simple yes we do from Winnebago would help us/me believe!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're killin' me....

Would you want it to appear like a message from above on the forums, or like an "I could've had a V8" moment?