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Would no IFS be your deal-breaker?
07-27-2009, 10:27 AM
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OK, we just returned home from GNR, and saw some new and nice changes to the 2010's. Also, some not-so-nice. I have never owned a coach with IFS, but have always thought that my next one would definitely have it.
Some earlier models had it, but either interior colors or floorplan didn't work for us, so we've stayed with ours.
Now comes the 2010 Tour 40CD, and we really like almost everything about it. Except that it has no IFS, so I am hesitant.
Did Winnebago make a big mistake here? What are your thoughts on it?
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07-27-2009, 12:52 PM
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It would be a deal breaker for me. I wonder if it will be offered as an option as it was earlier on the Vectra and Horizon.
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07-27-2009, 03:37 PM
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Capt.
What is IFS?
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07-27-2009, 03:46 PM
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IFS = Independant Front Suspension. As opposed to Straight Front Axel.
IFS is a much better riding front suspension.
Sammie
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07-27-2009, 04:27 PM
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Yes, Sammie is correct. Supposed to be a better-riding, (more expensive), front suspension system, and as a cost-cutting move, Winnebago Industries has discontinued it on all 2010 Winnebago and Itasca motorhomes, all models. The rep said they will not be offering it, even as an option.
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07-27-2009, 04:39 PM
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I think the more important issue is that the IFS has a 60 degree wheel cut vs 55 degree wheel cut. 5 degrees makes a big difference when trying to get into tight places. I have had the straight I beam suspension in a 2005 Journey and didn't think the ride was all that bad. If it was not for the increased wheel cut I would not let the lack of IFS stop me from buying a coach.
Jim
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07-28-2009, 12:35 PM
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In spite of my high confidence in Winnebago quality and customer service, with no IFS offered, and no side radiators, it would be very difficult for me to be excited about buying a new Winnebago now...
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07-28-2009, 02:10 PM
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I own an 07 Vectra with the IFS and love it. I drove the 43 model at GNR and can say it rides a "little" rougher but it would not be a deal breaker. With the increased wheelbase it is smoother but in the driver's seat it really was not much different. Riding as a passenger behind the wheel I noticed more noise and bumping but I've ridden back there in my own coach. My understanding was that Winnebago gained 500 pounds of carryiing capacity by going with the straight axle (and I'm sure it was less expensive). My IFS only has 56 degree turn so I would not notice any turning difference other than the increased 5 inches in the wheelbase.
I honestly think the only really reason I noticed any difference was because I could hear the front wheel going over bumps. The insulation is so awesome in the 42 footer that you cannot hear the diesel running, so you now can hear the tires bouncing. With the thicker insulation in roof and back it is super quiet. I could not believe how quiet it was in the driver's seat-- oh, my wife wasn't with me....
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07-28-2009, 04:24 PM
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I would have to say drive it before eliminating it. You may be surprised and not notice the lack of IFS.
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07-29-2009, 08:38 PM
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No side radiator is the bigger deal breaker for me. May be able to live without IFS. Will look at others for retirement coach.
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07-29-2009, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by becks
No side radiator is the bigger deal breaker for me. May be able to live without IFS. Will look at others for retirement coach.
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For me, maybe it's just been some good luck, but out rear radiator MH has not been a drawback. I have had the valve lash done by a Cat-cert mechanic for $75; I have never had an over-heat condition, and I have cleaned the radiator every year or so, in about an hours' time. I do my own filters and fluids changes, and have had no access problems.
I wouldn't mind having it, but I really don't see it being that important.
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07-30-2009, 06:31 AM
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One of the reasons I bought my 2009 Vectra was IFS. But to be completely honest with you, I can't tell any big difference in the ride between my Vectra and my uncle's 2008 Tour.
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07-30-2009, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimjr
One of the reasons I bought my 2009 Vectra was IFS. But to be completely honest with you, I can't tell any big difference in the ride between my Vectra and my uncle's 2008 Tour.
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Jim, have your driven your uncle's Tour in some less-than ideal condisions? Interested to know if your IFS handles better (less steering correction), in side winds and on uneven roads, than the straight axle?
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07-30-2009, 03:14 PM
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It must be different in our selection of motorhomes ..
When the DW walks into the rig and her eyes glaze over ... that is the rig we buy ... the layout of the bathroom, convenience of the kitchen, interior colors etc TRUMPS IFS, CAT vs Cummins, rear vs side radiator, etc.
There used to be a lumber yard store here in Oshkosh with a sign that saidYou can't buy panelling unless your wife is with you or you have a note from her
... and they meant it. They had too many guys returning panelling that their wife rejected.
That pretty much summarizes our motorhome selection process ...
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