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01-05-2017, 11:17 AM
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Senior Member
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'17 DSDP Windshield Wiper Functionality
Does anybody else have issues w/ the wipers on their later-model DSDP with the "VIP Smart Wheel" controls? The "High/Low" button seems to function fine as far as turning the wipers on at a constant speed and alternating between the high and low speeds. However, when I hit the "Off" button doesn't always (more accurately, just about never) stops the wipers at the bottom of their travel. Sometimes they even stop right in front of my field of vision. The intermittent button seems to work okay for a few seconds, then the wipers just stop or seem to do nothing predictable or useful, often stopping mid-windshield while rain continues to come down heavier and heavier.
Am I doing something wrong? All of my coach literature is in the coach and I am far from it currently for work.
-TJ
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01-05-2017, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Waynesboro MS
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YES! I have the same problem with my 2017 Ventanna LE. Newmar says it's a Fl problem. FL says just stop by any FL location and it'll only take a few minutes to fix. Sure, I just happen to be driving around and happen upon a FL dealer and they'll just jump right on it NOT.
I guess mine will have to wait until I go to Gafney for service in August.
Same with the dash lights flashing.
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2017 Ventanna LE 4037, 2014 F-150 4 door, 2013 Jeep Wrangler unlimited ( Sandy’s Rock hounding rig.)
9 year Newmar Hoots looking for a roost
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01-05-2017, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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I'm not sure I'm answering your question but just in case...
Mine is an older coach on a Spartan chassis but I didn't understand how the intermittent worked for over year until I read the users manual. LOL
On mine you HOLD the intermittent button down to establish the time duration. In other words...if you HOLD the button for 5 seconds, you get a 5 second pattern. HOLD it for 10 seconds and you get a 10 second pattern.
I've never had a problem with the wipers not returning to a stored position when turning them off from any mode.
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2006 2015 DSDP 4320 4369, FL Chassis, 2013 CR-V 2020 Jeep Overland, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1.
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01-05-2017, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Macon, Georgia USA
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I have a FL chassis. I admit the windshield wiper controls leave a lot to be desired. No real adjustment to speed other than hi and low. However I've never had them fail to return to proper position when turned off.
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01-05-2017, 03:06 PM
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Mine do the same thing on 2017 FL. Dont return to center.
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2020 Newmar Essex 4551
2019 Ford F-150 Powerstroke
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01-06-2017, 04:25 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: MotorCoach Resort, St Lucie West
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owners manual..
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Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
I'm not sure I'm answering your question but just in case...
Mine is an older coach on a Spartan chassis but I didn't understand how the intermittent worked for over year until I read the users manual. LOL
On mine you HOLD the intermittent button down to establish the time duration. In other words...if you HOLD the button for 5 seconds, you get a 5 second pattern. HOLD it for 10 seconds and you get a 10 second pattern.
I've never had a problem with the wipers not returning to a stored position when turning them off from any mode.
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If you keep reading the owners manual you're going to ruin this forum.....
Bob
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01-06-2017, 06:06 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
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We have a DSDP 4018 which was born on July 29th 2016. Did not use the wipers ever until Jan 1st 2017 and got all the same problems. They stop everywhere including vertically up but not stop where they are supposed to. Even worse they were stopped ( in the wrong place ) and when we took the key out they started wiping again.
Seems it will be Gaffney in the spring before they are fixed for us to.
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01-06-2017, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjZ06
Does anybody else have issues w/ the wipers on their later-model DSDP with the "VIP Smart Wheel" controls? The "High/Low" button seems to function fine as far as turning the wipers on at a constant speed and alternating between the high and low speeds. However, when I hit the "Off" button doesn't always (more accurately, just about never) stops the wipers at the bottom of their travel. Sometimes they even stop right in front of my field of vision. The intermittent button seems to work okay for a few seconds, then the wipers just stop or seem to do nothing predictable or useful, often stopping mid-windshield while rain continues to come down heavier and heavier.
Am I doing something wrong? All of my coach literature is in the coach and I am far from it currently for work.
-TJ
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Yes on our 2016 Ventana LE. Its a known issue. Newmar's wiper motor vendor changed the amperage in the motor unbeknownst to Newmar, and the programing or parameters need to be adjusted to work properly with the new amperage.
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01-06-2017, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
I'm not sure I'm answering your question but just in case...
Mine is an older coach on a Spartan chassis but I didn't understand how the intermittent worked for over year until I read the users manual. LOL
On mine you HOLD the intermittent button down to establish the time duration. In other words...if you HOLD the button for 5 seconds, you get a 5 second pattern. HOLD it for 10 seconds and you get a 10 second pattern.
I've never had a problem with the wipers not returning to a stored position when turning them off from any mode.
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On Freightliner you press the intermittent button once, it will wipe once. Wait till you need it again, then press again and that is you time frame.
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01-06-2017, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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MISINFORMATION ALERT!
In my previous post I was cornfused! PDR John is 100% correct.
Tapping the intermittent button starts the timer sequence then tapping it again sets it.
My feeble mind reverted to what I learned first (which was wrong) vs hat I learned when I read the manual.
Sorry folks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
I'm not sure I'm answering your question but just in case...
Mine is an older coach on a Spartan chassis but I didn't understand how the intermittent worked for over year until I read the users manual. LOL
On mine you HOLD the intermittent button down to establish the time duration. In other words...if you HOLD the button for 5 seconds, you get a 5 second pattern. HOLD it for 10 seconds and you get a 10 second pattern.
I've never had a problem with the wipers not returning to a stored position when turning them off from any mode.
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2006 2015 DSDP 4320 4369, FL Chassis, 2013 CR-V 2020 Jeep Overland, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1.
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01-06-2017, 09:34 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slsbl77
If you keep reading the owners manual you're going to ruin this forum.....
Bob
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YA...but I need to properly remember what I read.
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Don, Sandee & GSD Zeus. Guardian GSDs Gunny (7/11/15) & Thor (5/5/15)
2006 2015 DSDP 4320 4369, FL Chassis, 2013 CR-V 2020 Jeep Overland, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1.
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01-06-2017, 09:38 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Same issue with my 2016 Ventana. Ended up being both the VIP module and the wiper motor. Freightliner said they were having lots of issues with the wipers post 2015. My wipers would also jerk violently when in intermittent mode.
Mark and Louene Hetrick
Newbee the last VTDP 3725
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01-06-2017, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Fort Lauderdale
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Not sure about the stopping but the intermittent I do know! During my delivery we couldn't get the delay to work right with the two taps to set the interval (pre 2017 method) Called Freightliner for an appointment while I was in IN and got the account rep for Newmar who said it was because NEWMAR made a motor change that is not compatible with the Smart Wheel. Went back to purchasing and told them and they contacted FCCC and were told that FCCC was working on an update that should be done in Nov 2016. Just spoke to my local FCCC dealer for the steering hose recall and asked about the upgrade. They called their factory and were told that there will be no update it will only be a 10 second delay every time you press the button. I emailed NEWMAR to ask that they re-check their end to see if that is true. I would like the ability to adjust the interval instead having to press the button. I was told it only effected DS and Ventanas.
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2017 DSDP 4369 Beach House
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01-06-2017, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Northern Oklahoma
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After working fine for over a year my 2015 DS wipers all at once (during a heavy rain storm) wouldn't come on till I discovered on the Hi/Lo button would start the wipers. When stopped the passenger side went down like it should but the driver's side stopped in the middle of the windshield. While at Nappanee I asked that it be addressed but was told the wiper problem was a FL fix. So when I got home I went to a FL shop which fixed the problem but said it was a Newmar problem and charged me for it. After a lot of hassle Newmar agreed to cover the charge.
The wipers seem to be one of those items that are considered part Newmar and part Freightliner, just difficult to determine where one ends and the other starts.
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