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09-23-2011, 10:52 AM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
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2005 Mountain Aire
soliciting info from any mountain aire owners...
We have found an 05 model 4303' 30k miles, great shape, low price.
I just know very little about this coach other than new it is very pricey. I would be going from a 36ft Monaco Cayman, 2008 to this.
Any advise or issues you may have had would be appreciated. Almost ready to pull the trigger.
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09-23-2011, 11:20 AM
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We bought a 2005 4301 roughly 11 months ago with 26K on it. I would say it was a 9 out of 10 as far as overall condition.
So far no issues other than learning all the features. We have put ~4K on it over four trips in the midwest/southeast.
You can pick them up for 1/2 the cost of new. You shouldn't have to pay more than $125K for it, which is a boat load of cash...but a lot less than the $250K the first owner paid!
Enjoy if you pull the trigger...
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09-23-2011, 12:34 PM
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Senior Member
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kandb3296,
I have an '05 MADP 4304, and I highly recommend one, have several friends with '05 MADP's. Am sure they would echo my recommendation.
Only minor problems, door awning (elec), pioneer radio and nav system,
and now the jack pad going bad.
Good coach.
Al Sawyer
'05 MADP
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09-23-2011, 12:47 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MADP4301
...but a lot less than the $250K the first owner paid!
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We paid almost that much for our '02 Dutch Star after all the options were added.
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09-23-2011, 12:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
We paid almost that much for our '02 Dutch Star after all the options were added.
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I would agree. A MADP in '05 could not be bought new for 250k.
Peter
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09-23-2011, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Lee\'s Summit, MO
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Had one. Paid $280,000. Our first coach...we are now on our third. As stated above a few issues like the Pioneer Radio (crap), some windshield cracking, rear camera faulty (but fixed). Still would say it is/was a good coach!
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2011 King Aire 4574
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09-23-2011, 03:16 PM
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I'm not looking to start an agrument on new Newmar Class A DP purchase pricing but I certainly hope the first owner of my coach didn't pay more than ~$250K. After options the grand total MSRP was ~$335K. 335,000x.74=$247,900. You should be able to negotiate 26% off MSRP.
That's the price of the RV. What you have to pay Uncle Sam, your State, your County....City....etc. is NOT the purchase price of the coach itself. Depending on where you live that can add another ~10% to your "out the door price". Maybe that's the confusion with ~$250K.
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09-23-2011, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MADP4301
I'm not looking to start an agrument on new Newmar Class A DP purchase pricing but I certainly hope the first owner of my coach didn't pay more than ~$250K. After options the grand total MSRP was ~$335K. 335,000x.74=$247,900. You should be able to negotiate 26% off MSRP.
That's the price of the RV. What you have to pay Uncle Sam, your State, your County....City....etc. is NOT the purchase price of the coach itself. Depending on where you live that can add another ~10% to your "out the door price". Maybe that's the confusion with ~$250K.
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Interesting, obviously a low option rig. Most prices, list/option may have been far north of what I believe was reality.
Peter
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09-23-2011, 03:40 PM
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I bought a 4304 a year ago. As others have said my navigation system crapped out (I'm not fond of the whole Pioneer system on this unit). I've replaced the 120v thermostat on the hydro hot, a motor for the automatic steps, the 50 amp plug on the shore power cord, control board on the a/c unit (could have been my fault, the jury is still out on this one). I've spent a couple hundred dollars on these parts. Other than a OTA converter box for the tv everything else was just routine maintenance. There is a lot to learn about these units. My two biggest complaints that I would change, I do not like the curtains across the front window (just lazy I guess) and a thrid a/c would be nice for those 100 degree days when you are parked facing the south or west. I just checked NADA low retail (low 130's) and it was low 150's when I bought mine last year. That's still a lot of money but I feel like you get an awful lot in a motorhome for that kind of money.
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09-23-2011, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Michigan
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Check the paint job for any checking/cracking. Not sure but this year may have still been involved with the faulty fiberglass they used on the sides. This was not a structual issue just a cosmetic issue but still for what they cost it should be correct. JMHO
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09-23-2011, 07:19 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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If your looking for Tech information,Owners Guides & brochures of your coach's go to the COM_NET2 link in Quick Tips.
If you have the coach build number you can find direct information on your coach.
Welcome to the Newmar forum.
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09-24-2011, 02:50 PM
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Junior Member
Monaco Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
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Appreciate all the input
Wow, appreciate all the input. I guess my biggest 'fear' is going from a 36' to a 42' and pulling the jeep... only six more feet, but then some sites are pretty tight.
Anyway, we are still looking at this one, we are really leaning towards it as it is a private seller (consignment coach) and priced fairly well, i believe based on its features/options. asking price is $149k, i think we can get it for a bit less ... we will see.
thx
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09-24-2011, 04:37 PM
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09-27-2011, 12:53 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Louisville, Ky.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kandb3293
Wow, appreciate all the input. I guess my biggest 'fear' is going from a 36' to a 42' and pulling the jeep... only six more feet, but then some sites are pretty tight.
Anyway, we are still looking at this one, we are really leaning towards it as it is a private seller (consignment coach) and priced fairly well, i believe based on its features/options. asking price is $149k, i think we can get it for a bit less ... we will see.
thx
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Bought my 4304 from a friend last Dec. and paid $110 and he took my 2000 36' Mt. Aire gasser in trade , so I figure i paid in the neighborhood of $140 -$150k for my new coach nicely equiped ( hydra hot, washer dryer, dish washer and in-motion sat., kingsize bed outside freezer/frig etc.) no problems as of the 6.500 miles i've put on it( came with 37,000k on it..love it.. The difference in driving the 42 footer opposed to the 36 shouldn't be an issue.. I tow my HHR all the time..
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