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04-04-2017, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 169
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2017 Canyon Star
I am considering a 2017 Canyon Star. We currently have an older 2005 Diesel which pulls our toad fine. My question is will the Ford engine be a big let down? We do go west every winter and cross the mountains in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona with no problems now. How have any current Canyon Star owners found the gasser to be?
Thanks for your help!
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Roland, Linda, Matt, LuLu, Mo and Chewy
Fleetwood Bounder 38 N
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited toad
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04-04-2017, 04:18 PM
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Location: Key Largo Fl./Ft Mill Sc
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I am not sure the size canyon star your looking at, but I can tell you
that my bay star sport has no problem towing a ford escape on a dolly.We
have been all through the Colorado Rockies.
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Barry & Martha
2016 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 Freightliner
2018 Harley ultra Limited / 2018 Jeep Wrangler Sport
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04-04-2017, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: Michigan
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Canyon star
We are looking at the 3710 bath and 1/2. 26000# chassis.
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Roland, Linda, Matt, LuLu, Mo and Chewy
Fleetwood Bounder 38 N
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited toad
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04-04-2017, 05:05 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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You'll have no problems.
I have a '13 3911. Tow a Dodge Grand Caravan. Only upgrade is a 5 Star Tune.
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Jim & Shirley & Abbie (Scottish Terrier)
2013 Newmar Canyon Star 3911, 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan - Braun Accessibility Modified Toad, Remco Lube Pump, 5 Star Tune, Progressive Industries EMS-HW50C, Coach Net Emergency Road Service, FMCA 378968
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04-04-2017, 05:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Same here on the 5 star tune, best money spent.
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Barry & Martha
2016 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 Freightliner
2018 Harley ultra Limited / 2018 Jeep Wrangler Sport
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04-04-2017, 05:41 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Canyon star
Have you been happy with you motor home and would you buy again? I am not sure about going from diesel.
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Roland, Linda, Matt, LuLu, Mo and Chewy
Fleetwood Bounder 38 N
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited toad
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04-04-2017, 07:04 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rfsod48
Have you been happy with you motor home and would you buy again? I am not sure about going from diesel.
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Never had a diesel, so have no basis for comparison.
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Jim & Shirley & Abbie (Scottish Terrier)
2013 Newmar Canyon Star 3911, 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan - Braun Accessibility Modified Toad, Remco Lube Pump, 5 Star Tune, Progressive Industries EMS-HW50C, Coach Net Emergency Road Service, FMCA 378968
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04-04-2017, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Mid Atlantic Campers Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Va
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rfsod48
We are looking at the 3710 bath and 1/2. 26000# chassis.
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I have a 2017 Canyon Star 3710 and it tows my Jeep Unlimited without a problem. I have never owned a diesel, but from reading posts here might want to consider adding an ant-sway bar to close in on the handling you have experienced with the diesel. We love the coach and thoroughly pleased with it. Newmar CS has treated us well. That said it is truly a quality product.
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Russ - USN SWO (ret) - 2018 Dutch Star 4369 Spartan Chassis a Road Glide CVO & Dyna Switchback in an Iron horse trailer or a Jeep Unlimited Alliance Valor 40V13 toyhauler (on order) with Harley CVO ROad Glide and Dyna Switchback in the garage, pulled by a F350 DRW
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04-04-2017, 07:17 PM
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I never owned a diesel but have driven my Canyon Star from east coast to west coast and back without a problem. Although I did not tow a car, to me it had plenty of power and it is well built. With regards to gas powered coach Newmar is at the top of the list.
I just posted a you tuber's comparison of gas vs diesel on this site on another thread. Here is the link:
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/gas-...ts-333799.html
Hope this helps.
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04-04-2017, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
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Canyon star
Thanks for all the replies!
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Roland, Linda, Matt, LuLu, Mo and Chewy
Fleetwood Bounder 38 N
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited toad
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04-04-2017, 07:53 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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We have a new 3710 and tow a Wrangler, although we have not taken it through the Rockies we have done a trip into the Smokies. It tows great in the flats, going up a grade like the Saluda Grade on I-26 (6% grade for 3 miles up Howard's Gap)the coach does slow down to about 50 and that is with a little running start.
We have never had a diesel so I can't compare, I would suggest the five star tune if transversing mountains often.
The tune is on my to do list.
Other than a mountain grade we couldn't be happier with our Newmar gas coach!
Steve
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04-05-2017, 04:21 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Oct 2014
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We went from a 2002 Dutch Star DP to our 2017 Canyon Star 3953.
I tow a 2015 Ford Fiesta (2500k+ lbs.)
You will not have a problem towing in the mountains - but you will be a slower than the diesels. You will lose low end torque. Driving on flat surfaces, I have hit 75mph towing and had to slow myself down.
You will not have a problem with engine noise - although you'll know when the engine downshifts - seems to be the BIG reason people give for not to buying a gasser after owning a DP......not for us!
Handling is much better than my old diesel.
We did add the 5 Star Tune - worth it.
We also added Sumo Springs Maxims front and rear. We did not like the roll feeling when making turns. Fixed it!! My diesel with the air bag ride also had a roll.
I like the simplicity of my Canyon Star chassis versus a diesel. 7 quarts of oil versus 20+ quarts and many more living parts..
We are very pleased, I am happy to say, with the CS.
It works for us.
Good luck
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Glenn & Angie - my Guardian Angel plus "Haddington & Sophie The Airedales".
2017 Newmar Canyon Star 40', FMCA - Retired Army Sergeant Major
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04-05-2017, 04:28 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StevL
We have a new 3710 and tow a Wrangler, although we have not taken it through the Rockies we have done a trip into the Smokies. It tows great in the flats, going up a grade like the Saluda Grade on I-26 (6% grade for 3 miles up Howard's Gap)the coach does slow down to about 50 and that is with a little running start.
We have never had a diesel so I can't compare, I would suggest the five star tune if transversing mountains often.
The tune is on my to do list.
Other than a mountain grade we couldn't be happier with our Newmar gas coach!
Steve
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We also went through the Smokies on I-24, hit a 6% grade at Monteagle, TN and went down to 50mph.......not problem, I stayed with the trucks. If I pushed the engine, I could have gotten few more speed but why?
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Glenn & Angie - my Guardian Angel plus "Haddington & Sophie The Airedales".
2017 Newmar Canyon Star 40', FMCA - Retired Army Sergeant Major
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04-05-2017, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Chester, MD
Posts: 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanslam
I never owned a diesel but have driven my Canyon Star from east coast to west coast and back without a problem. Although I did not tow a car, to me it had plenty of power and it is well built. With regards to gas powered coach Newmar is at the top of the list.
I just posted a you tuber's comparison of gas vs diesel on this site on another thread. Here is the link:
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f258/gas-...ts-333799.html
Hope this helps.
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That was an interesting video. I couldn't see which gas coach they had.
I have been following this couple on their sailing videos. This was the first RV video I watched by them.
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