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05-20-2018, 06:14 PM
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2018 DS roof drain won’t unplug
This past week we camped at the beach, the AC’s produced a lot of condensation and of course the drain over the front door was plugged, water was pouring down. When I got home I pulled the drain cover and attempted to flush out the drain with a 3/8 tubing attached to a garden hose,No luck. Next I removed the rubber duckbill and inserted the tubing up from the bottom, Nothing. Then compressed air from the bottom, nothing
I was able to insert a speedo cable from the top and a wire fish stick from the bottom they both stop above the windshield, maybe a 90 elbow. Any thoughts ?
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05-20-2018, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart W
This past week we camped at the beach, the AC’s produced a lot of condensation and of course the drain over the front door was plugged, water was pouring down. When I got home I pulled the drain cover and attempted to flush out the drain with a 3/8 tubing attached to a garden hose,No luck. Next I removed the rubber duckbill and inserted the tubing up from the bottom, Nothing. Then compressed air from the bottom, nothing
I was able to insert a speedo cable from the top and a wire fish stick from the bottom they both stop above the windshield, maybe a 90 elbow. Any thoughts ?
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Stuart
I was recently park at a lot for two weeks ( had to leave it ) many trees and a lot of rain. I spent two hours sweeping up and cleaning roof. All drains were VERY clogged. I removed covers and took a spray nozzle ( jet spray )and just sprayed into that hole ( keep it tight to the drain hole, 30-45 seconds ). This has worked for me, hope it helps you
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05-20-2018, 08:50 PM
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Hi Stuart - We go to a lot of COE campgrounds which means a lot of trees. When I have run into seriously clogged drains what has worked for us is to force water up from the duckbills in short bursts. Maybe 3 or 4 seconds and let it drain, then do it again. So far it has never failed but does take some patience.
Tom
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05-21-2018, 05:52 AM
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i've got the same problem....
have not used a fish wire yet....but compressed air and warm water.......i get some flow, but very limited flow.....i have taken screen covers off, and all is clear from debris on the roof top....i have also taken off duck bills....
it can't be a straight shot.....that's for sure...and stuart you've already potentially discovered that...
i have not tried water up from the bottom, only compressed air....i am going to make an adapter to connect the hose to the bottom, with a shut off, so i can be up on the ladder on the roof side and see if i can get flow up to the top....
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05-21-2018, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by willipaul
i've got the same problem....
have not used a fish wire yet....but compressed air and warm water.......i get some flow, but very limited flow.....i have taken screen covers off, and all is clear from debris on the roof top....i have also taken off duck bills....
it can't be a straight shot.....that's for sure...and stuart you've already potentially discovered that...
i have not tried water up from the bottom, only compressed air....i am going to make an adapter to connect the hose to the bottom, with a shut off, so i can be up on the ladder on the roof side and see if i can get flow up to the top....
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Willipaul what drain is effected it on yours?
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05-21-2018, 08:48 AM
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Once you’ve unblocked them I highly recommend placing a NYLON Brillo type pad under the grate (or getting rid of the useless grate altogether) in the space where tge water and debris accumulates prior to goung down the drain. This filters the crud out and prevents blockages for good. You may have to rinse them out from time to time but that’s easy.
What drain are you having trouble with?
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05-21-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlandpv
Once you’ve unblocked them I highly recommend placing a NYLON Brillo type pad under the grate (or getting rid of the useless grate altogether) in the space where tge water and debris accumulates prior to goung down the drain. This filters the crud out and prevents blockages for good. You may have to rinse them out from time to time but that’s easy.
What drain are you having trouble with?
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Of course over the door[emoji51]
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05-21-2018, 01:37 PM
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Stuart,
When I had my issue with clogged drain that Newmar eventually took care of it was the same drain. That is usually first to get clogged. Wonder if there is something different to its design compared to other 3???
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05-21-2018, 01:38 PM
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I also think they tend to adjust auto level down on the right front
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05-21-2018, 07:01 PM
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Willipaul what drain is effected it on yours?
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first was the one over the door....then the other side in the front started acting up...
i was able to shoot water up from the bottom to both drains...full flow to the roof, and then back down....followed up with compressed air.....i have flow now.....
i took off the grates and was thinking the same thing on the nylon brillo pad....i'm gonna get a couple.....the door side grate had some built up junk on it, but not much really....definitely not enough to cause the problem....
the drain over the door does not empty out up on the roof....there remains a pool of water in it, even when it stops running from down below....it is full almost to the top; definitely completely covering the drain tube up there....it's almost like there is an air pocket in it....it is definitely can't be a straight shot....but i did not fish a wire into it in either direction.....
the other front drain does not do it...i am thinking either there is a problem with the door side, and / or it is routed differently....
we had heavy rain this weekend on saturday when i camped at a local NKK new england aires rally. both front drains overflowed and came down the side of the coach...really ticked me off. the drivers window didn't leak, but it made a serious racket as the water cascaded down the drivers side of the coach. the door side was more of a nuisance than anything else, as i had the door awning out and it helped direct the water somewhat away from the coach.....
the site was nose low. i couldn't fully level the coach, had to leave it nose low as i didn't want the tires off the ground in the front, and i didn't bring any blocking.....so i imagine all of the rain had to make it down the two front drains.....maybe they can't handle all the flow....
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05-21-2018, 07:26 PM
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As it sits now, full of water
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05-21-2018, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart W
As it sits now, full of water
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exactly how mine looks....
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05-21-2018, 07:30 PM
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Working to get more details from Newmar. I’m convinced there is a problem at the elbow from horizontal to vertical
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05-21-2018, 07:33 PM
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Working to get more details from Newmar. I’m convinced there is a problem at the elbow from horizontal to vertical
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you are going through customer service ?
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