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01-17-2019, 03:58 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2016
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I had similar problem, got it "aligned" to no avail... The called Sparton and they asked if I had the REAR axle aligned - the first "recommended" shop did not. Went to Henderson's (not in your area) and they aligned both the front and REAR - steered like a whole different rig and became a relaxed pleasure to drive! Later I switched to the Koni shocks and they made a difference that you could feel (not in side to side wander) but in ride comfort
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'18 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 towing '22 Ram 2500
sold Newmar KS DP 6 yrs, Cameo 5r; 3 Vogues and Airstream MHs in the '80s
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01-17-2019, 04:30 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Washington State or Western Montana, depending on the season.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calequine
Had same problem. When big rigs passed on left, would throw me partly onto shoulder. Don’t get me started on wind. Went to Henderson’s in Grants Pass, OREGON. Installed sway bars. Problem solved. Check them out online.
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The Ford chassis under the Fleetwood Flair your profile shows you have is a completely different animal from a Spartan DP chassis. And, resolving handling issues is also quite different between the two.
TJ
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2018 Mountain Aire 4047
2014 Honda CR-V 2020 Lincoln Nautilus "toad" w/AF1
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01-17-2019, 06:12 PM
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#59
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 28
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Check tire pressure. Probably not as critical on a DP but on a gas rig with workhorse chassis it is really important to have all tires inflated up to the upper end of the pressure range. Otherwise it is nearly impossible to drive the coach safely or even comfortably.
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2011 Kia Soul toad
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01-17-2019, 06:28 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: St. George, Ut
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I put new tires on and had them align front axles and both back axles with each other. Steers with 2 fingers now.
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01-17-2019, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Koni FSD shocks have variable speed compression dampening. When you hit a big bump or hole regular shocks compresses quickly and can bottom out with a harsh jolt. With compression FSD shock valving increases hydraulic resistance as shock piston speed increases thus slowing suspension travel without the harsh bottoming. The improved wheel control with improved FSD compression and rebound dampening eliminates porposing.
Overinflated tires are unstable , making the coach feel squirrely when encountering road imperfections.
My coach albeit a gasser drives quite well after my chassis modifications. Currently doing my research for my next coach and the Dutch Star 4018 just may be choice # 1.
Good luck to the OP.
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Sumo Springs, Safe T Plus, F&R RM SB, R-TB, Front Koni FSD Quad Shocks, Rear Koni FSD Quad Shocks,2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Elite
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01-17-2019, 09:05 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2017
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Did wheel aligment for years
Mine was all over too
Added some positive caster from 1.5 original to 4 degrees , en of it now goes so good
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01-17-2019, 09:10 PM
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#63
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mulino, OR
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Spartan chassis
All of this is too common. That’s why I stayed away from that chassis. My Roadmaster drives so nice, I never need a break, except to pee.
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01-17-2019, 10:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 232
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Steering
I HAD a Dutchstar and the 1st trip was 1k miles over 2 days. I thought I was going to die after 2 days because my shoulders hurt so bad. Problem corrected by 1) Spartan recall, 2) alignment, and 3) sway bar for rear axle. 18 months and 70k miles, I sold it!
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01-17-2019, 10:53 PM
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Junior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Stewart W, thanks for the info. I'm a newbie to motorhomes of any kind, and I have been struggling with wandering (particularly to the right, but I do that in a car, too). How far in advance do I look? I have to concentrate to keep the rig in the appropriate place in the lane. All tips welcome!
Cindy
2000 Newmar DSDP 35ft, Cummins ISC 330 HP, Spartan Mountain Master, Allison, no tow at this time. Yippee!
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01-17-2019, 10:56 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Weighing in on shocks. For Ventana’s that have solid front ends (not IS) I have found the tuned shocks sold by precision engineering in Oregon reduce sway and ride smoother. Because they reduce sway the coach seems to track better.
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01-17-2019, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Sorry for inaccurate info in last post. The company I was referring to about shocks is source engineering in Eugene Oregon. Here is their web site:
http://sourcerv.com
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01-17-2019, 11:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Sevierville, Tn
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My DP wandered and was really bad when a big truck passed me. I had the front end alignment checked and was told it was correct. BUT>>>I had 1/8 of an inch of toe IN added to the front tires, and it was unbeleivable how it drives now. One handed and no worry when a truck passes. I LOVE IT. MOMCAT
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01-18-2019, 06:17 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranquil Jim
The Ford chassis under the Fleetwood Flair your profile shows you have is a completely different animal from a Spartan DP chassis. And, resolving handling issues is also quite different between the two.
TJ
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Thank you Jim [emoji4]
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Newmar 2018 Dutch Star 4369 SP
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01-18-2019, 06:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wilmington,NC
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by judgebobk
2019 DSDP first trip and I have to steer constantly due to road wander. I have the comfort drive up full and no wind but it takes constant steering input to keep in the lane.
This is my third coach and first Spartan but I've never before had to concentrate so intensely on keeping in the lane.
Any thoughts? I've scheduled a front end alignment.
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My 14 was bad from the day off the lot, had 7 alignments, 1/2 of my 35000 miles have been going to both factories. Spartan finally determined it to be a faulty p/s pump after checking everything over and over for 1 &1/2 weeks, better now but still not like my last Freightliner chassis. With all that I love my coach.
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