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Old 07-20-2019, 07:49 PM   #1
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2019 Ventana Air Dump - Auto level

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Previously our rig would dump most of the air when the Equalizer Auto Level system was activated. It would leave the front end low, but could easily adjust it to level.

Left Gaffney Freightliner the other day after they discovered a loose connection which was causing our unit to drop when stopped for a couple of hours. Does not drop now!

Currently the rig does not dump a significant amount of air to lower it when the auto level is engaged, and sits level but too high.

I would like to have it dump the air to lower it when the auto level is engaged.

Suggestions?
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Old 07-20-2019, 08:41 PM   #2
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I haven't been able to try it yet but read somewhere to start the autolevel, then stop it before the jacks go far. It will let the air out. Then retract all and start the autolevel again.
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:37 PM   #3
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That is how we normally do ours. It was leveling about 3 inches too high. Someone on this forum posted the procedure and since we began doing that we level a lot lower.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:59 PM   #4
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I haven't been able to try it yet but read somewhere to start the autolevel, then stop it before the jacks go far. It will let the air out. Then retract all and start the autolevel again.
I use this technique and it solved 99 percent of my leveling issues. When we first got our coach, we went on an 11 week trip and I must have used leveling boards 40 percent of the time. It was a real pain. Since then, we have been out six months and counting. We have only needed them twice.
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Certainly sounds like Freightliner screwed up your dump valves in the course of repairing the leak. I’d expect them to repair it.
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When you push the auto button, the suspension should dump air for 30 seconds before the jacks start to descend. If they start before the 30 seconds is up there is something wrong with the control box. Have you tried the manual dump button? How long does it take to dump the air using that? Personally I have never had an issue, although the front does dump much quicker than the rear. Sometimes I can hear the rear still dumping after the 30 seconds is up.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:07 PM   #7
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Have left Freightliner - Gaffney for Boston / Maine / Canada / Nappanee. Will have Newmar look at it once there.
This system has no dump valve on the control board.
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We were recently camping with a group anf one couple has a 2018 Ventana tag axle. The have a one button operation system like ours. The coach air bags deflated quickly and from the sounds of it, fully purged before the jack's extended.

Our Ventana's jacks extend when the air bags deflate and the jack's touch the ground before the bags fully deflate.
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Our Ventana's jacks extend when the air bags deflate and the jack's touch the ground before the bags fully deflate.
Our 2017 VTLE 3412 does the same thing when we use autolevel with the engine still running. We have changed our procedure in two ways: I now level with the engine off and the key in the accessory position - if the engine is still running the air pressure is competing with trying to dump. Second, we have started to do as recommended and hit the "autolevel" button first, then immediately hit "retract all." The airbags will continue to deflate and we get much lower than we used to.

In addition, I level manually more often and rely on a bubble level app on my phone. Doing these two things, our front step is no longer way up in the air and all the tires are on the ground. Makes a big difference!
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Our 2017 VTLE 3412 does the same thing when we use autolevel with the engine still running. We have changed our procedure in two ways: I now level with the engine off and the key in the accessory position - if the engine is still running the air pressure is competing with trying to dump. Second, we have started to do as recommended and hit the "autolevel" button first, then immediately hit "retract all." The airbags will continue to deflate and we get much lower than we used to.

In addition, I level manually more often and rely on a bubble level app on my phone. Doing these two things, our front step is no longer way up in the air and all the tires are on the ground. Makes a big difference!
x2. We do the exact same thing.
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While pressing "Retract All" may cause the system to stop, when we had our 2014 Ventana LE, the procedure was to press "Auto Level" and when we heard air starting to dump, press "Auto Level" again to stop the jack extension. Air would continue to dump until the system was purged. Then, press "All Retract" to return the jacks to the starting position. Finally, re-initiate the leveling procedure by pressing "Auto Level." Since the air has already been purged from the system, the jacks will deploy.

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When you push the auto button, the suspension should dump air for 30 seconds before the jacks start to descend. If they start before the 30 seconds is up there is something wrong with the control box. Have you tried the manual dump button? How long does it take to dump the air using that? Personally I have never had an issue, although the front does dump much quicker than the rear. Sometimes I can hear the rear still dumping after the 30 seconds is up.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but starting in 2016 or 2017 the Ventana models do not have a manual dump switch. I know mine doesn't have one.

Jim's method of purging all the air out when leveling is the only way I have found to get it done and have the coach as low as possible.
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Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but starting in 2016 or 2017 the Ventana models do not have a manual dump switch. I know mine doesn't have one.

Jim's method of purging all the air out when leveling is the only way I have found to get it done and have the coach as low as possible.
+1. Certainly our 2017 VTLE does not have a manual dump, so we use the press twice method and it works much better.
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The Newmar parts catalog shows the control with manual dump on the 2016 Ventana but the catalog does not show a control unit for later models.
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