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Old 06-20-2019, 10:33 AM   #1
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Question 40 FT LADP or ESSEX?

Would you buy a 40ft LADP or ESSEX? I'm very comfortable, i.e. I think 40ft is an ideal coach length, for me. I stress it enough, adding another 5 feet would just add stress to my RV life I believe. So what if there was a 40ft LADP or ESSEX? Would you buy one? Do you think there is a marketplace for this?

Take the New Aire as an example, a short high line (for some reason Newmar doesn't classify it as a luxury line but we all do I think). Now take the 33/35 New Aire concept to a 40ft "short" LADP or ESSEX, so you can pack in the luxury features into a 40ft floor plan, a step above the MADP for even more amenities, etc.

I think if there was a 40ft ESSEX I'd be very interested in it. Maybe a 550HP vs. the 605?
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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Would you buy a 40ft LADP or ESSEX? I'm very comfortable, i.e. I think 40ft is an ideal coach length, for me. I stress it enough, adding another 5 feet would just add stress to my RV life I believe. So what if there was a 40ft LADP or ESSEX? Would you buy one? Do you think there is a marketplace for this?

Take the New Aire as an example, a short high line (for some reason Newmar doesn't classify it as a luxury line but we all do I think). Now take the 33/35 New Aire concept to a 40ft "short" LADP or ESSEX, so you can pack in the luxury features into a 40ft floor plan, a step above the MADP for even more amenities, etc.

I think if there was a 40ft ESSEX I'd be very interested in it. Maybe a 550HP vs. the 605?
A 40' London Aire or Essex would be high on our list. We likely would have bought one in 2018 if they had been available. For us, a 40' coach is the sweet spot.

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I walked through a 40’ Mountain Aire last January at the Western RV Show in Indio. I believe it had a 500 Cummins on a Spartan chassis. Very nice coach.
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The only High Line Newmar coach that are out at 40ft. are the Mountain Aire's. It is only available on a Spartan chassis with the 500HP X-12 with 1650 torque. The HL Newmar's are MA, LA, Essex and KA. We owned a 45 foot Essex in 04 and that year a couple others too, I think to 06, did have a 41 ft. model which very few were built. Our friends who purchased our first 40 ft. LA loved their 41ft. Essex. We were just yesterday at 7 Feathers Casino in Oregon and they have a 40 Mountain Aire which is a 18 with at sticker price of 604.000 new for 423.000. With our 18 LA we might down size to the 40ft. MA rather then the 33/34 New Aire's. Newmar is now using the ISL 8.9 450 HP in the New Aire which should be a great improvement over the B series 6.7 with 350HP. It is surprising the fuel economy you get with new Cummins X-15 which is the low to middle 7 which is better then our previous Essex with a 500 HP ISM engine at 10.8 litters and averaged in the 6.3 to 6.7 range. Plenty of power with X-15 and still better fuel economy. We are traveling up to Seattle from southern Ca. on I-5 and there must be 20 plus grades with 6% plus grades.
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I traded in our Cornerstone and bought our 2019 40 ft Mountain Aire because this was the only tag axle 40 coach available from any manufacturer. We wanted the travel and camping flexibility that occurs at 40 ft. and less. I would note that our motor home is not our residence. It is used for touring this country.



After having owned three 45 coaches over the past 10 years, all with the ISX15 engine, I am not happy with the performance of the ISX12 on this coach. The 40 ft. coach only weighs approx. 2,000 pounds less than the 45 ft model. Wind loads are the same. Towing load is the same. Net result, in my opinion, is inadequate power. I guess I've been spoiled, this smaller engine doesn't have sufficient power.



I would definitely buy a 40 ft. London Aire or Essex, or a Cornerstone with the ISX15, 605 hp engine.


I would note that when we purchased our 2009 Monaco Signature with the 650 hp engine, that engine was also available in a 40 ft, tag axle Executive model. It can be done.


As a side note, I would also love to see the 40 coach with 4 slideouts and a single mid-bath, rather than the space wasting bath and one-half.
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Take the New Aire as an example, a short high line (for some reason Newmar doesn't classify it as a luxury line but we all do I think).
Interestingly, for 2020 the New Aire shows up on Newmar’s website grouped in the luxury coach section. I agree this seems correct.
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