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Old 11-06-2017, 10:27 PM   #1
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7 pin towing connector on 98-2002 Dutch stars

My 2000 Dutch Star 3565 with Spartan chassis has a 7 pin towing connector at the rear. There are 6 wires going into the connector. However there are two wires, orange, and a black that are tapped to the outside of the harness. I believe they may be used to give 12 volts to towed vehicle or something else.
I want to utilize one of these wires for my brakemaster LED light on the dash that tells me when the brakes are being applied in the toad. Newmar says they should be coiled on left side of steering column back on front bulkhead. After 2 hrs I still havenít found them. If anyone with the years Iíve listed can help I would appreciate it immensely!!
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We had both a 2000 3865 and 2002 4090 DSDP. Open up the hatch in the dash and look, mine were in there, they were wrapped up in the wiring there.
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It's always a bit of hunt to find the wires under the dash for these coaches.

Many of us use the "blue" electric brake controller wire to feed a dash-mounted LED to tell us the toad brakes have activated. That's because you won't be towing a toad and trailer at the same time, and the "blue" wire should be run already from the back to a connector under the dash. The signal to the dash LED will use the corresponding "blue" wire in the existing umbilical between coach and toad, eliminating the need to use the Newmar orange or black "spare" wires and also the need to use the Roadmaster patch cord between coach and toad.

Buy the matching pigtail for a brake controller, splice the pigtail lead to the dash LED- done! It's plug-and-play, and can be replaced with another brake controller pigtail when and if you want to tow a trailer.

So, while you're looking for the dash end of the orange and black "spare" wires, keep an eye peeled for the "blue" electric bake controller wire.
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The wiring for your plug is on page 7-6 of this owners guide.
You need a flashlight to look in the dark recesses of the dash to left of hole on top of dash.
If you haven't used the CB cable and wiring they maybe wrapped together.
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It's always a bit of hunt to find the wires under the dash for these coaches.

Many of us use the "blue" electric brake controller wire to feed a dash-mounted LED to tell us the toad brakes have activated. That's because you won't be towing a toad and trailer at the same time, and the "blue" wire should be run already from the back to a connector under the dash. The signal to the dash LED will use the corresponding "blue" wire in the existing umbilical between coach and toad, eliminating the need to use the Newmar orange or black "spare" wires and also the need to use the Roadmaster patch cord between coach and toad.

Buy the matching pigtail for a brake controller, splice the pigtail lead to the dash LED- done! It's plug-and-play, and can be replaced with another brake controller pigtail when and if you want to tow a trailer.

So, while you're looking for the dash end of the orange and black "spare" wires, keep an eye peeled for the "blue" electric bake controller wire.


I was hoping to find the complete ďharnessĒ for tow package under the dash but have yet to find it. Age, bifocals make it difficult. I will give it another shot today. Does anyone know if itís a separate 7 wire harness coming into the front bulkhead or grouped into the mass of wires. I guess what Iím asking is where is the point of origination for this harness?
The blue, orange or black wires is fine to use just have to find them
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My 98 has just the black & red paired wires. they are on the left side of the steering column.
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You will find only two wires up front, back to rear jack ,other wiring to fuses in a compartment in rear.
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You will find only two wires up front, back to rear jack ,other wiring to fuses in a compartment in rear.


007, so where does the blue wire originate from for brake controller that was mentioned in previous post?
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From under the dash area to the 7 pin jack only a brake controller would be supplying the 12v back to 7 pin jack.

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