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Old 03-07-2013, 05:41 AM   #15
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:13 AM   #16
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We have the Blue Ox Patriot. Very easy to install. Takes only a few minutes and you are ready to go. There is no drain on the toad battery. Very light weight, easy to handle. Fits on any toad, no modifications required. Truly a "Plug and Go". We made the right choice for our situation.
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We have the Blue Ox Patriot. Very easy to install. Takes only a few minutes and you are ready to go. There is no drain on the toad battery. Very light weight, easy to handle. Fits on any toad, no modifications required. Truly a "Plug and Go". We made the right choice for our situation.
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My problem with a brake-in-the-box is the repeated setup and take down process especially if there's any type of weather occurring at that time. SMI's solution incorporates the brake into the vehicle and it is always out of sight and mind until you plug in the umbilical cord. Once enabled, the system performs excellently whether one opts for the Air Force 1 or the Duo . SMI applies the brake under an operating vacuum in the booster and only requires normal braking pressure applied to the pedal as anyone would normally do while driving the vehicle.
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I bought the Blue Ox Patriot braking system when we bought our new 2011 Class A. We have since sold the Class A but I still have the Patriot and plan to use it with our next new RV, however, I am always open to what is “new and improved” on the market. The only problem I had with the Patriot was adjusting the power driver’s seat to apply the proper amount of pressure from the unit to the brake pedal. The Patriot will give you an error message if the pedal pressure is not correct. I solved that issue by placing a piece of tape on the bottom left portion of the seat and another piece of tape on the floor panel adjacent to the seat. I put 3 alignment marks on each piece of tape. I install the Patriot and adjust the seat by lining up the 3 marks on both pieces of tape and now the Patriot is properly positioned every time on the first try. Simple fix for a simple minded guy like me. So my only experience is with the Patriot and I don’t have anything bad to say about it.
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Is that for labor? Most shops charge over $100 per hour. I paid over that just for the AF1 system in the box.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:11 AM   #20
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I too have the Patriot and would buy it again for the following reasons.
1. Non-invasive to the RV air line
2. No compressor to drag down the battery
3. I don't want or need a braking system constantly engaging the toad brakes.
I set the braking sensitivity low and use it for break away or I have the
Capability to manually engage it from the cockpit if needed.
4. Portability. I can change to another toad easily.
5. It's just as easy to set-up as the RVI.

I've owned the Patriot for 2 years and it is trouble free.
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Is that for labor? Most shops charge over $100 per hour. I paid over that just for the AF1 system in the box.

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Is that for labor? Most shops charge over $100 per hour. I paid over that just for the AF1 system in the box.
Tomorrow, I'm taking the CRV for the braking system install. Parts alone with discount should cost about 2400 to 2500. And you still need to add labor on top of that. Don't forget the tax.

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I had the Blue Ox brake when it first came out. Blue Ox wanted to upgrade it for a recall so I sent it back to them. When I got it back, it never worked right again. Despite numerous calls and "solutions and being returned to the factory 2 more times, the piece of crap failed in Montana when we were on the way to Alaska. I threw it in the back and went north anyway. I put an AF 1 in while in a CG in Valdez and have been using it since. The coach part is on it's third coach and the toad part on it's second toad. I'll never use anything else. I've switched these systems out in dealers parking lots and CG's in Tucson and at home. Not a terribly long or hard job and except for having to fabricate a couple of brackets to make plug mounts a bit easier, it was basically a zip tie installation.
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I'm in Vancouver area. I paid about $3000: that included all the equipment installed on my Jeep and motorhome, a 3500# towing assembly for the jeep, and all the wiring for towing and being towed. As I said I am quit happy with the system.
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When I refer to the system I mean the Blue-ox towbar and the Airforce braking system.
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Air force 1 is great have had it for 5 years now with no prblems.
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