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10-23-2014, 03:58 PM
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Another 197 Samsung question
Installed the 197 several months ago using a lot of information gleaned from this site and I now need some more ideas.i have secured both the front (leveling legs) and the rear (using 3 screws through the new floor). Having used it this way on two trips (1000miles) with no problems but I have noticed that the top of unit is not stable. Today I removed the unit (5 times now) using the dolly I made. I removed the top vent cover to see if I could build some kind of blocking to put some pressure on top of fridge to help secure it. This has been quite a learning curve but well worth it. Install was done on a 2005 dsdp. I remember reading a thread where someone did this but now I can't find it. Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this. Roger
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10-23-2014, 04:03 PM
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Although I didn't do the install myself, I know my installer went through the roof vent and secured the top of the fridge in some manner. My assumption is that he drilled through the sheet metal on the top of the fridge to attach an angle bracket. We have no problems with the top of the appliance moving when we travel.
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10-23-2014, 04:57 PM
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I installed the Samsung in a 2004 DSDP a few months ago. Bolted it down thru the front leveling legs (reversed ) and then removed the refer vent on the roof and wedged in a block of wood (2 x 4 flat) along the back top of the fridge and secured the wood with heavy duty 3inch L brackets lag screwed to the wood and the side of the vent hole. I then filled the roof vent hole and the side wall vent hole with insulation and then replaced the vent covers. The refer is rock solid as it is secured at the bottom front and top back. Tried wiggling it and it won't budge.
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2016 DSDP 4369, Freightliner Chassis, AF One brake system, 2016 Chevy Equinox
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10-23-2014, 08:17 PM
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Simple fix
I installed my Samsung 197 very recently in my 2007 Dutch Star. I was also concerned about the stability at the top of the unit. I fashioned an additional anti-tip plate from heavy aluminum that I attached to the cabinet above the frig. No screws were driven into the frig itself. Also backed the entire top cabinet face board with 3/4" ply - screwed and glued - to give more strength to the entire. (The green painted board in the photo is the plywood backing.) If the frig comes out, it will have to take the entire cabinet.
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10-23-2014, 08:27 PM
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In addition to bottom attachments as mentioned earlier.......On the top of the 197 near the doors is a plastic piece that runs the width of the reefer. There are a couple of 1" square indentions in the piece. I used 1" squares of plywood screwed and glued to a board that spanned the width of the cabinet and attached to the cabinet. The 1" squares engaged the plastic indentions. I covered the remaining space over the reefer with a decorative piece that attached from the outside. The decorative piece needs to be removed to access the board with the 1" squares.
So far only about 20,000 miles without a wiggle.
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10-23-2014, 10:04 PM
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Another Samsung 197 question
A lot of good ideas on how to stabilize topof fridge. I have a question for tiger fan 1. How did you screw the ell brackets to side of vent opening? Does the opening have a alum framework completlely around it and if so, did you screw it to the very top (1 inch) of this framework? Without removing all of alum flashing material surrounding this opening I can not asertain if there is anything solid behind it. Thanks again, Roger
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10-24-2014, 01:16 AM
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Here is how I secured mine to the coach.
I made an aluminum bracket that screwed to the top corner and side of the refer. Using short 1/2" self tapping screws you will not penetrate the refer. The bracket sticks up just enough that I could bolt an arm to it. The top piece was flat was a 90 degree bend that met the side piece, giving the lip that is pictured.
Once I had the refer in place, I went onto the roof, removed the refer vent and bolted an aluminum arm to the bracket and the other end I secured to the frame that creates the vent opening on the roof. On mine, Monaco used an aluminum vent frame. I again installed large 1" self tapping screws attaching the end of the arm to the vent opening frame.
If you make an arm as described, the top of the refer WILL NOT budge.
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10-24-2014, 08:38 AM
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Rog1965Char
The 2x4 across the top back of the fridge was wedged in, actually had to tap in place with a hammer. It is important that this is a tight fit. It worked out for me that the 1 1/2 inch thickness of a 2x4 laying flat was the perfect thickness. The 3 inch L brackets help stabilize the fridge but mainly insure that the wood wedge doesn't move. I used the largest sheet metal screws that would fit thru the hole in the L bracket and were about 1 inch long. The sides of the vent hole is about 4 or 5 inches thick and covered with metal. The sheet metal screws attached very securely to the sheet metal. This is a very simple method to lock in the top of the fridge with no screws in the fridge itself. Took only about 20 min to complete once I determined the max length of the 2x4 I could fit on an angle thru the vent hole. There are a lot of good posts on how to secure the top of the fridge, this worked for me and was quick and cheap. The fridge is rock solid.
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10-24-2014, 10:35 PM
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Another 197 Samsung question
Project completed, fridge is secured. Would like to thank everyone who responded with some excellent advice. I actually used a combination of this advice so again thanks. Roger
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