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09-03-2017, 11:00 AM
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Automatic Transfer Switch popping every 15 sec
All,
Would appreciate your thoughts on whether this is a problem or not. If not, it is beyond annoying. I have my Ventana LE plugged into Shore power at home and have it set for a max of 15A. Please see the video I shot for 20 seconds. It is constantly doing this and I tried turning off the battery switch in the coach, tried plugging to a different outlet and nothing seems to make it go away. This is not the first time it has done this but don't know how or why it stopped before or what caused it.
Thoughts?
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09-03-2017, 11:07 AM
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You mention you, "have it set for a max of 15A" WHAT is set for 15A? The solenoid is engaging, then disengaging. It could be because whatever you set to 15A is exceeding 15A. Turn off the circuit breaker that controls your inverter/charger, and see if it still disengages. If your batteries are low, the inverter/charger could be pulling more than 15A to try to charge them.
Check other electrical use besides the inverter/charger, a refrigerator, water heater, etc. could easily exceed 15A.
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09-03-2017, 11:59 AM
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Hi canipeb,
Whatever you have set for 15 AMPS revert back to 30 AMPS or 50 AMPS. If the coach draws too much power the house breaker will pop. Then you know what the problem is. Must turn off everything. However that defeats the purpose of keeping the batteries charged. Consider providing the coach a dedicated 50 AMP circuit.
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09-03-2017, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BFlinn181
You mention you, "have it set for a max of 15A" WHAT is set for 15A? The solenoid is engaging, then disengaging. It could be because whatever you set to 15A is exceeding 15A. Turn off the circuit breaker that controls your inverter/charger, and see if it still disengages. If your batteries are low, the inverter/charger could be pulling more than 15A to try to charge them.
Check other electrical use besides the inverter/charger, a refrigerator, water heater, etc. could easily exceed 15A.
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Sorry, I have the Magnum Energy controller set at Shore Max 15A. I changed it to 20A and it is still doing the same thing. See picture.
My RV does have a full-size refrigerator. I'm plugged into my garage which is a normal three prong household plug.
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09-03-2017, 12:05 PM
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hi -By chance is the circuit you are plugged into on a GFI circuit? That could cause this issue. Also check that all the lugs are properly torqued. Otherwise I'd guess that the transfer switch needs replacement.
Tom
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09-03-2017, 12:09 PM
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Does it do it on generator? What is the voltage under load at the power outlet the coach us plugged into?
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09-03-2017, 12:09 PM
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The cord you are using is to long or to light or both. Same thing happened to me. Went to Home Depot and bought a heavy cord and all was well.
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09-03-2017, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canipeb
Sorry, I have the Magnum Energy controller set at Shore Max 15A. I changed it to 20A and it is still doing the same thing. See picture.
My RV does have a full-size refrigerator. I'm plugged into my garage which is a normal three prong household plug.
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Your 40100 Transfer Switch has a low limit of 90 VAC. Have you measured the input voltage when the relay drops out? If I was guessing I would say the voltage is momentarily dropping below 90vac, dropping the relay, voltage is going back up because load is disconnected, and re-picking the relay. Are you using an extension cord?
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09-03-2017, 12:27 PM
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I'm guessing I may have an extension cord issue as two of you have suggested. It does not do it except when plugged in to my house with an extension cord. I will go and get a heavier duty cord and see if that makes a difference. If you haven't figured out, I know nothing about electrical.
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09-03-2017, 12:32 PM
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>"I will go and get a heavier duty cord..
Pay attention to the wire gauge on the cord.
Lower number = bigger wire = more current capacity.
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09-03-2017, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canipeb
I'm guessing I may have an extension cord issue as two of you have suggested. It does not do it except when plugged in to my house with an extension cord. I will go and get a heavier duty cord and see if that makes a difference. If you haven't figured out, I know nothing about electrical.
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Make it only as long as necessary !! Don't buy 100' if you only need 25'. The longer the cord, the more the voltage loss.
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09-03-2017, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricci
hi -By chance is the circuit you are plugged into on a GFI circuit? That could cause this issue. Also check that all the lugs are properly torqued. Otherwise I'd guess that the transfer switch needs replacement.
Tom
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If you listened to the video, it's the ATS that's cycling on/off. A GCFI wouldn't cause that to cycle, it would either connect or trip, preventing power to go to the RV and ATS.
To the OP: If the new cord solves the cycling, I suggest you turn off the refrigerator for a few hours until the batteries get charged to a level that won't draw so many amps. The fridge should be fine if you turn it off for 3-4 hours, as long as you don't repeatedly open it for beer. 
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09-03-2017, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BFlinn181
If you listened to the video, it's the ATS that's cycling on/off. A GCFI wouldn't cause that to cycle, it would either connect or trip, preventing power to go to the RV and ATS.
To the OP: If the new cord solves the cycling, I suggest you turn off the refrigerator for a few hours until the batteries get charged to a level that won't draw so many amps. The fridge should be fine if you turn it off for 3-4 hours, as long as you don't repeatedly open it for beer. |
Well the extension cord did not fix the issue. Went to a 12 gauge 25' cord from a 14 gauge. Will try your suggestion of turning off the fridge for a while.
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09-03-2017, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bflinn181
if you listened to the video, it's the ats that's cycling on/off. A gcfi wouldn't cause that to cycle, it would either connect or trip, preventing power to go to the rv and ats.
To the op: If the new cord solves the cycling, i suggest you turn off the refrigerator for a few hours until the batteries get charged to a level that won't draw so many amps. The fridge should be fine if you turn it off for 3-4 hours, as long as you don't repeatedly open it for beer. |
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