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Old 04-09-2018, 12:21 PM   #1
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Baystar vs Baystar Sport

Good afternoon,
I'm going to be trading my Winnebago View/Navion for class A Gasser, staying under 31'. My plan was going to stay with the Winnebago brand Vista/Sunstar(LX) until I started looking at the Newmar. At first glance the Newmar offers beefier chassis with 22.5" tires as opposed to 19.5" on the Winnebago.
What are some of the differences between the Baystar and the Baystar Sport?
Would you buy the same unit that you have if you could do over?

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Larry
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:45 PM   #2
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Newmar splits their gas line into 3 size families. Baystar Sport is shortest, then Baystar then Canyon Star. Along with size is chassis rating. There is a bit of overlap at the meeting points so the longest Baystar Sport will be approximately the same as the shortest Baystar.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:09 PM   #3
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Very happy with ours, even with 19.5 tires.We would probably go a little larger, but not much.Cost was never a factor,but practicality and floor plan.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:29 PM   #4
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We just traded in our 2014 MB Sprinter 24J based RV (50,000 miles) for a new 2018 Newmar Bay Star 3124. Wanted to stay under 33 feet and liked the extra CCC with the chassis and the 22.5" Tires on The Bay Star over the Bay Star Sport. We loved the Sprinter but it was just too cramped on long trips with 2 Adults and 5 Show Dogs. Hated to give up the Diesel, but we couldn't find a small diesel with a layout and quality that we wanted at an affordable price. We looked hard a the Dynamax Isata 5 30FW on the Dodge Diesel 5500.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:55 PM   #5
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We love our 2016 Bay Star 3004! The same year/model was also available as a Bay Star Sport 3004. Same Newmar quality, but we found that the Sport came with fewer standard features. We shopped for a year, looked at several brands/models and kept coming back to Newmar. We purchased at the end of 2016 when we found exactly what we were looking for on a dealer lot, so it was a matter of available and feature-set that determined our decision to not purchase the Sport. I'm sure you would be happy with either. We would definitely purchase the same coach again if we had it to do over. Customer service has been outstanding from the dealer and from our customer rep at Newmar. As first time RVers, the iRV2 forum, along with the Newmar owners group, has been a great source of information.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:27 PM   #6
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We took possession of our 3013 Baystar Sport last May 7th. We ordered it at the Tampa Show in Jan. 2017. Honestly, we got caught up in the moment and should have spent more time comparing the Sport vs Baystar. If we had, we would have ordered a Baystar with the same floorplan as the 3013 (baystar 3113)

Reasons are:
Baystar is heavier
Water heater is electric/propane in the Baystar. Propane only in the Sport
8 Cu fridge in Baystar; 6 Cu fridge in Sport.

We love the floorplan. We spent 4 months in Maine last summer in the coach and were very happy with the space.

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Old 04-09-2018, 02:44 PM   #7
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We have a 2018 Bay Star 3406 and love it. We didn't look hard into the BSS because we wanted bunk beds for the kids and that wasn't offered in 2018. Components will be different between the two (water heater as stated, TV's, microwave).

That said, looking over the features, it reminds me of a conversation I had with a Dutch Star owner about comparing a Dutch Star to a Ventana. Features that are options on one model are standard features on the other.

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Hydraulic leveling jacks
Power vents
Slide toppers
Exterior mirrors with defrost

In addition, we were able to upgrade our chassis to 24K providing a significant increase in carrying capacity. But finding a floorplan you like is essential and they are all built on the same assembly line using the same techniques. You can't go wrong either way.

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We upgraded from an Isata 3 to a 2016 Bay Star 3124. We wanted a king bed (2 labradoodles). We love the lay out. We have been on a 35 day trip and many long weekends since last August. Logged almost 8k miles. Always comfortable, easy set up and break down at camp sites. Plenty of room in the fridge for 3-5 days of fresh food. Good pantry storage. Have yet to use up the outside storage. Mileage has averaged around 7.8. With the price difference between reg gas and diesel, there has been no increase in fuel costs for the same mileage traveled. DW absolutely loves the view from the front with the increased ride height.
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I chose the BSS over the same floor plan in a BS because it’s BSS was a couple of inches shorter in height so it fit in the carport. I’d do it again.
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Bay Star Sport has 19.5" wheels, with 18K chassis on the shortest 2700 series coaches. 2900 series and above has a 20,500 GVWR chassis. Bay Star has 22.5" wheels. Baystar went to 22,000 chassis in 2015. From my understanding, Bay Star now has a 24,000 chassis on the largest 3500 series coaches (36' length). Bay Star also has upgraded interior furnishings, a larger standard refrigerator. The Canyon Star has a 26,000 GVWR chassis, and again more upgraded interior. Canyon Star also has plumbing and connections for an available stacked washer/dryer.
The shortest Bay Star will keep you just under your 31' requirement. You can not go wrong with Newmar quality.
If you go to https://www.newmarcorp.com/ you will have access to full details, specs, floorplans, and brochures for all in the Newmar line.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:59 PM   #11
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We got a BSS 2702. There is only one choice in this length and we wanted to stay under 28 feet.
It's the same size as a UPS package car (the brown trucks) and we drive it anywhere UPS goes. At lunch today I parallel parked it in a restaurant parking lot. It took three pull-in spaces.
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We purchased a 2016 BSS 3306 last August. We looked at both and for us the primary reason came down to price. We picked up ours for around $75k brand new. The main difference between the two is the chassis. The BSS rides on either an 18.5k or 20.5k ford chassis whereas the BS is on the 22k chassis. But even on the 20.5 chassis ours has a carrying capacity of around 2800 lbs which is more than enough for us.
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We purchased a 2016 BSS 3306 last August. We looked at both and for us the primary reason came down to price. We picked up ours for around $75k brand new. The main difference between the two is the chassis. The BSS rides on either an 18.5k or 20.5k ford chassis whereas the BS is on the 22k chassis. But even on the 20.5 chassis ours has a carrying capacity of around 2800 lbs which is more than enough for us.
Have you had any issues with your BBS
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Have you had any issues with your BBS
that's BSS
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