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10-16-2017, 07:02 PM
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BayStar vs Canyon Star vs Vista LX
Ok..............after long last I have a decision on a few RVs. I drove a used 2016 3755 Canyon Star with 4700 miles on it....nice coach and they want $130K for it. I also drove and like a 2017 new Baystar 3403. Nice coach and selling for $112K, full warranty etc. Other than a 26000 lb chassis vs the 22000 lb chassis in the Bay star, can anyone give me reason to purchase the used Canyon Star over the new Bay Star and does the price sound out of line? Also drove and liked a new 2017 Winnebago Vista 35LX very nicely equipped for $119K. All 3 coaches have 1 1/2 baths which is nice and similarly equipped. Let me know your thoughts as I like all of them and trying to eliminate 2 of them. Thanks
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10-17-2017, 05:17 AM
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IMHO, Canyon Star is nicer than the Bay Star and in theory, being slightly used it should have some of the initial bugs worked out. I would think the Newmar quality better than Winnebago at that price point.
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10-17-2017, 06:28 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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I would compare BS & the CS side by side... Compare finishes inside and see if you notice a big difference and don't forget about size 34 vs 37 3 feet doesn't sound like a lot but it is... Check out the storage in the basements and which floor plan works best for you...
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10-17-2017, 06:45 AM
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We love our Baystar 3401. That said, I think the Canyon Star has a better looking exterior, and I think the 26K chassis would be an advantage with a considerably greater CCC, and maybe better handling overall. One thing though, does the 2016 have the 6 speed tranny? Also, we had looked at the Winnie Vista LX and liked it okay, but seem to remember the interior cabinetry etc. wasn't really close to the Newmar level of build quality. As others have said, make sure which ever layout you choose works well for you.
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10-17-2017, 06:57 AM
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Check tow capacity and carrying capacity on all 3 units. Also check storage for what you want to take along. Don't assume the heavier chassis will be higher ccc as it may have a heavier house due to some of the "features"...
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10-17-2017, 07:21 AM
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BayStar vs Canyon Star vs Vista LX
To make a fair comparison CS vs BS first off, I recently sold my 2016 CS with 7k miles on it for $125k, it was fully loaded. You need to look at options like, fiberglass roof, upgraded generator 5k vs 7k, outside TV, refrigerator option, 26k chassis standard on the CS, solid surface flooring from front to rear, overhead front TV, surround sound sys, heat pumps on A/C , dual pain glass windows, solid wood cabinet faces vs vinyl wrapped particle board. Floor plan etc almost all of the above are options on both. So to really compare you need to dig deeper in my opinion. The 26k chassis is not an option on the BS and others ordering new BS are paying as high as $3500 to upgrade from 22k to 24 K chassis.In my somewhat biased opinion, the Canyon Star is a substantial upgrade and if your within $10k or less why not go CS if you like the floor plan and options. I'm sure this last comment will open up a fire storm of opinions.
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10-18-2017, 05:32 PM
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"don't forget about size 34 vs 37 3 feet doesn't sound like a lot but it is.."
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10-18-2017, 05:32 PM
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If you plan on much mountain driving I would be sure to get a six speed transmission. In the last month I have gone over the Rockies twice. In tow/haul mode it's like having a Jake brake.
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10-18-2017, 06:42 PM
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We were sold on the Bay Star, a wonderful MH, and test drove several. As we priced and compared we found that the Canyon Star offered more upgrades, amenities and options that would make our first RV experience more enjoyable. We ordered ours fully optioned like Stuart W and with several special orders, but also opted for the washer/dryer, dish washer, and central vac which are not offered as options on the Bay Star. Ours is the 3513 floor plan and and after options and at delivery our ccc was +/- 4100lbs. In September at the Hoots Rally we had a four corner weight done and are still just -24k on the 26k lb. chassis and balanced good. Some more $$$ but happy wife. Best of luck with your search.
Harold & Becky
2017 Newmar Canyon Star 3513
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10-18-2017, 06:48 PM
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OK...........pulled the trigger after a few years of researching. Chose the 2016 Canyon Star 3755 with 4700 miles on it but in "new" condition! We love it as this is our first coach and we're excited to learn all we can and making our maiden voyage. The dealer has a few adjustments to make and adding a washer/dryer stack. I am looking into whats needed to tow our 4 door wrangler jeep. Stay tuned and any advice much appreciated! Thanks for all your help in answering my many questions........
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10-18-2017, 08:36 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Congrats on the new Canyon Star.
Welcome to the Newmar family.
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10-19-2017, 01:46 AM
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Congrats you'll love the Canyon Star, have many safe and happy travels.
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Orange County, California
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10-19-2017, 12:33 PM
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Congratulations and enjoy
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10-24-2017, 10:46 PM
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Congrats on the Canyon Star, 25K Miles and currently on the road loving every minute.
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