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Old 10-03-2019, 10:24 PM   #29
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For lack of relieving boredom around Salt Lake City on a very rainy day, I began taking note of traffic going the opposite direction. On motorhomes have the big flap the rain was shooting at an arc onto the hoods of the tow vehicles. On those without the flap the rain was aiming for the tire area.


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Old 10-04-2019, 05:38 AM   #30
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Sorry to hear about your damage. I have some connections in the State highway repair and would really like to know where this occurred. I cannot recall ever that a road was left unfinished for 23 miles and with 6 inches of chip seal that is still open to traffic in both directions no less. Chip seal is generally no more than 1/2 inch in depth. I can try to make contact with project manager if you like and see what happen.
Thank you but I have already filled the complaint and received my denial letter. I turned it over to my insurance and it's at the repair shop.

The denial letter was full of incorrect information, guess it was the standard letter. I was told a investigator was assigned to the case. Didn't know he/she was only investigating the state Dot, they never contacted me. Thought that was pretty odd. All my years as a investigator for the DA's office, I interviewed all parties involved. But that's the way it goes I guess. [emoji53]
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:56 AM   #31
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I was plowing thru at least 6 inches deep of gravel. Even removing the mud flap would not have stopped the damage.
6 inches deep ? Your kidding ? Right
And you kept driving. ?

We spread stone all the time on farm drive ways.
Untill the tractor spreads it out and compacts it, you could not drive through 6 inch deep stone with your rv.
Must be a rich state or they were building a new road bed and you were on a closed section.

( Tar and chip is maybe a quarter of an inch.)

Spread correctly.
If you drove over 2 or 3 miled per hour,
I doubt you could, buy if you did fast enough to throw stone.
The blames all 100 percent on you.
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:06 AM   #32
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I can't see me towing a box trailer for my truck. To many times I've had to back in to a space at a park and don't want to have to unload my truck to unhitch the trailer to just back in for a overnight stay. Plus finding a place to park at my house. I already have 3 different tounge hitch trailers. Lol
We rarely utilize CGs that only have back-in sites. In over 2 years of full time traveling we haven't had any real issues finding pull through sites long enough to handle our size. I'll admit we just don't randomly wonder around the U.S.A., we do pre-plan our route and stops.
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:20 AM   #33
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6 inches deep ? Your kidding ? Right
And you kept driving. ?

We spread stone all the time on farm drive ways.
Untill the tractor spreads it out and compacts it, you could not drive through 6 inch deep stone with your rv.
Must be a rich state or they were building a new road bed and you were on a closed section.

( Tar and chip is maybe a quarter of an inch.)

Spread correctly.
If you drove over 2 or 3 miled per hour,
I doubt you could, buy if you did fast enough to throw stone.
The blames all 100 percent on you.
It was pea gravel and yes you can drive thru it. There was no other option other than the state highway I was on or I would not have been on it. Don't come to Oklahoma in your travels you won't like the roads. Best to try another state.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:35 PM   #34
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We have used the Blu Ox KarGard for over 7 years and we have never had a chip on the car. Unlike the other poster, we do not find it a pain to install - we think it is rather simple. We like that it folds when not being used so it is easy to store.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:18 PM   #35
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In 6" of gravel I sure wouldn't be going 35 mph for 23 miles!!
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:07 PM   #36
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Seems you don't want to confirm the road you were on so others can beware, or have you fudged this just a bit. I don't think Oklahoma is responsible or to blame for you continuing 23 miles at posted speed limit when you felt the road conditions were not favorable to your equipment.
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I was plowing thru at least 6 inches deep of gravel. Even removing the mud flap would not have stopped the damage.
Where is this road with 6 inches of loose gravel ???
Im from Far South East Kansas rght on the Oklahoma boarder.
We ran cattle in both states. Grew some wheat also. Had cousins farming 100 miles south into Oklahoma. My brother and our daughter went to college in Tulsa. So Im very aware of most all roads in Oklahoma.
Yes, red riverbed rock, pea gravel is used on the roads. But its never 6 inches deep of loose stone to, ( plow through ) ?
Unless the township just dumped it and there was road construction going on.
Again, what road and where ?
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It was pea gravel and yes you can drive thru it. There was no other option other than the state highway I was on or I would not have been on it. Don't come to Oklahoma in your travels you won't like the roads. Best to try another state.
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It was highway 412 west of Enid on the 2 lane section that starts at Enid. Not exactly sure of mile markers. I have only traveled that highway twice. Once going to Colorado on July 15th and coming home on August 20th. It was early evening. There were no workers present, no equipment around. Just a orange sign stating loose gravel and one of those large orange portable signs on a single axel trailer that said 35 mph for the next 23 miles. I did not get out with my tape measure and measure how deep it actually was. The center and the side of the road was piled up with gravel. If you are familiar with this highway you know there is not much traffic. Going out that way I think I passed 2 tractors. It's strange you don't believe this story. I have the damage to my truck to prove it.
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If you don't believe my above post you really won't believe the rest of that week leading up to that. The 20th was a Tuesday. On the 17th which was a Saturday my oldest was in a wreck that totaled out her car. A driver made a u turn in front of her. Then on Sunday night my wife's car was stolen from my house. Got the call about it Monday morning. Decided to cut our trip short and come home. Would have much rather stayed in Colorado till the end of September.
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Patrick, I sincerely hope your string on misfortune is behind you, you have certainly had enough to last for awhile. Jim
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:19 PM   #42
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Patrick, I sincerely hope your string on misfortune is behind you, you have certainly had enough to last for awhile. Jim
Thank you, Hope so too. Losing my brother in law last Friday from apperant massive heart attack made the other events seem small. He was only 59.
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