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10-12-2017, 07:37 PM
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Cig lighter bay star 3124 2017
Cig lighter / socket / plug in not working. Changed out the socket. Checked the fuse. Still nothing. Any ideas? Has worked before
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10-12-2017, 09:14 PM
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Is the socket making a proper ground? Can you measure 12VDC between the hot side (usually the center pin) and a good ground? It takes both a good ground and a good 12VDC supply to make it work.
Are you sure you checked the correct fuse? How did you check the fuse; VOM or replacement with a new fuse?
TJ
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10-13-2017, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquil Jim
Is the socket making a proper ground? Can you measure 12VDC between the hot side (usually the center pin) and a good ground? It takes both a good ground and a good 12VDC supply to make it work.
Are you sure you checked the correct fuse? How did you check the fuse; VOM or replacement with a new fuse?
TJ
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I haven't checked the ground. I did replace the fuse with a good fuse and still nothing.
Not sure what I would use there for a good ground.
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10-13-2017, 08:46 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Had the same problem when I took delivery of my 2015 Baystar. During warranty work service center replaced fuse under dash. No problem since.
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10-13-2017, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hogcard
Cig lighter / socket / plug in not working. Changed out the socket. Checked the fuse. Still nothing. Any ideas? Has worked before
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I had the same plug on the dash go out: It was a fuse under the dash on the right. We honk it was F3
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10-13-2017, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STORMY 1
I had the same plug on the dash go out: It was a fuse under the dash on the right. We honk it was F3
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I think it was F3
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10-16-2017, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STORMY 1
I had the same plug on the dash go out: It was a fuse under the dash on the right. We honk it was F3
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my fuse box is located in the front engine compartment. I think #20 or 22, don't remember. Is there a separate fuse box under the dash?
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10-16-2017, 03:30 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Cig lighter bay star 3124 2017
My 2017 3113 has two fuse panels under the dash to the left of the driver’s seat. The panel against the firewall is for Newmar wiring and the lighter fuse is on that panel. The panel on the left interior wall is for Ford wiring and fuses.
This is from Newmar’s owner’s guide:
“The Ford chassis fuse panel is located on the sidewall, left of the driver’s feet. This fuse panel supplies power to exterior lights, the tow plug, and the wipers. For exact details, see the Ford manual.
The Newmar fuse panel contains the chassis battery and ignition-powered fuses and is located on the firewall under the dash. This panel controls many of the components in the dash, the clearance/fog lights, and the engine compartment lights. The fuses for the dash blower, AC condenser, overhead fan, and power visor are also located in this panel.
Outside of the Coach
House battery and disconnect fuses are located under the hood of the coach. These fuses control the battery boost, battery disconnect, and entrance steps. In this same location, there are also 12 volt circuit breakers that provide power to the ignition, house fuse panel, inverter, and the power seats (if equipped).”
These photos show the Newmar fuse panel under my dash.
Ignore the notes in yellow - they document additional outlets I had added to my unit.
F1-F6 are always on. F7-F16 are only on if the ignition is on.
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10-16-2017, 05:45 PM
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Just went though his a month ago, same thing Cigar lighter out. Checked all the fuses they were OK. Ford Chassis book says Maxi fuse # 20 under hood cigar lighter and OBM plug. Well The OBM is OK but the lighter is out?
WAY up under dash is a MINI fuse in a inline fuse as soon as I see I could see it was blown. Seems Newmar does some wiring and there are no notes, drawing or schematics about it anywhere that I could find.
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10-16-2017, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valland
Just went though his a month ago, same thing Cigar lighter out. Checked all the fuses they were OK. Ford Chassis book says Maxi fuse # 20 under hood cigar lighter and OBM plug. Well The OBM is OK but the lighter is out?
WAY up under dash is a MINI fuse in a inline fuse as soon as I see I could see it was blown. Seems Newmar does some wiring and there are no notes, drawing or schematics about it anywhere that I could find.
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So there is a mini fuse located in line? I traced the blue and white wire as far as I could reach and felt nothing. How do you know if OBM is ok?
Sorry for the dumb questions. Pretty good at most things. Electricity is not one.
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10-16-2017, 08:20 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Cig lighter bay star 3124 2017
This the back of the lighter socket.
The blue wire is hot and the white is ground. You should measure 12 volts between them. If the ground wire is bad you should still measure 12 volts between the blue wire and any ground point.
Your meter can be used to verify continuity of the blue and white wires.
You should be able to find something screwed into the firewall to use as a ground for testing.
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