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Old 09-15-2017, 04:48 PM   #1
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We are thinking of moving to a LA from a DS. Have never driven anything with the X15 motor. It will be 3 years until I retire and can go out west to fully utilize the power of the larger engine. Would most of you all wait until the year of retirement to upgrade?
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:42 PM   #2
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If you are happy with your current DS why not wait until you retire for in 2-3 years they may have some additional cool options you may wish you had.
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You will love the LA. It will feel so much different due to the chassis/engine combination. Its a great rig for sure. We loved ours
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We went from a 40' '02 DSDP ISC 350 with Banks kit to the present Magna with ISX 650. The Magna only has 750 ft lbs more torque but what a difference it makes even moving 20,000#'s more. Plus the ride is quieter and changing to Koni EVO shocks helped the ride.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:58 PM   #5
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Who says you'll make it 2 or 3 more years? If you can afford it now, now is the correct time.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:25 AM   #6
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I'm with BBelanger on this one, tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
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My comparison is a bit different, having gone from a 41' Fleetwood Discovery (non-tag) with a 360HP Cummins with 800 lbs of torque to a 45' London Aire with a 600HP Cummins with 1,950 lbs of torque. COMPLETELY apples and oranges...absolutely NO comparison what-so-ever on many levels, not just the engine.

With that being said...

Just my 2 cents;

Even if you feel now that you won't be 'fully utilizing' the larger HP and Torque, I don't entirely agree. I guess, like many things, it can also be a matter of perception.

I don't drive in conditions where I'm 'fully utilizing' the larger HP every single trip, but getting 'right out' on the highway pulling our toad, passing when necessary, approaching a hill etc., all without the inevitable "I think I can, I think I can" chug every time. I'd say, the smile on my face can be clocked from grin to full-teeth in about 1 second. lol

Once you have that HP/Torque, it's just a different and greatly improved experience. I would say after having it, try and go back to the smaller engine and then ask yourself at that point if you were 'fully utilizing it' or not and would you want to go back to the smaller engine? I know what my answer to that is!! lol

Life can be short unfortunately and we just never know what it will throw our way...

Anyway, whatever you decide, best of luck and enjoy!!
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Old 09-16-2017, 07:40 AM   #9
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We are thinking of moving to a LA from a DS. Have never driven anything with the X15 motor. It will be 3 years until I retire and can go out west to fully utilize the power of the larger engine. Would most of you all wait until the year of retirement to upgrade?
I'd suggest you wait, Are you happy with the DS?

While the big engine may get you there faster/quicker/sooner we have found that we enjoy driving on the non Interstate Highways - we really don't need to Go Faster/move quicker/ or get there 5 minutes sooner.

So my story, after spending 5 years working on the Build List for my coach 13 years ago we had to have it built on a Mountain Master Chassis, as I had no interest in getting the Big Engine.

In the 12 years since years, we have gotten over all the Passes - Visited all the Places we have set out to visit and Never been Late because the engine was too Small. (I owned a Heavy construction business that used much smaller engines to haul much heavier loads, with no issue)

So wait a bit and see if what you have works for you - Get into those Mountains, see if you really need all that extra Power.

Now if the Coach/Dutch Star is short on what you prefer as to Build level then, wait still, as you will find you just will have so much more Experience in knowing what you Need or Want a year or two down the road.

So if I were you I'd take the next few years - work on a build List and then See if you need the LA - They are a truly Beautiful Coach - but you may find you prefer a Newell or a Foretravel in the next few years - so no need to rush.

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Who says you'll make it 2 or 3 more years? If you can afford it now, now is the correct time.


Exactly why we are contemplating to do this now. We have had so many pass recently from cancer and a tragic loss after a simple procedure.
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I would wait but that's just me. I could get one now but couldn't use it enough to justify the cost. Plan here to retire in two yrs and our choice now is the DS 4369.
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N H Dave X2. I would add also that I get better fuel mileage with the 600hp ISX than I did with either my '05 or '09 EXDP's.
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We really like our London Aire. I have not found a hill I can't tame with the 600 horses, fit and finish is very good, outstanding looks, and easy to drive.
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Maybe some additional thoughts here.

I did not see if you are considering new stock, a pre-owned, or new order. Many buying a new high line coach are ordering to get their customized rig. This will take several months to get delivery so your years before retirement have already been whittled away by the order/build/delivery lead time (let's say minus 1 year in this scenario).

Pre-owned or or dealer stock, if you want it, get it! In the long run, it's the coach you want so you might as well have it now.

We've lived some of what you describe as motivation and we'll retire in your general time frame. However, we were just too conservative financially to start at the new Dutch Star level (our present choice).

That said, we have decided that we like travelling via our home on wheels and will upgrade (we used the coach 42 nights in the first 11 months of ownership). We will place our order 1-2 years before retirement so that we order, get delivery, use the new coach, and get any bugs worked out before we hit the road in retirement.

I guess when I think about our time frame, our time to order is coming soon!

Good luck with your decision. No wrong answer here!
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