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09-20-2017, 03:35 PM
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D333RLT Tower
Texas Boomers Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,075
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Dutchstar 4369
Thinking about jumping ship. Appreciate any comments on this model-good, bad or indifferent.
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09-20-2017, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Vail, Arizona
Posts: 2,057
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I’ve never driven a cornerstone, but going from 600 to 450 horsepower and corresponding torque loss would worry me. I guess you’ll have to drive one yourself.
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Bill & Chris Bélanger (KI1Z)
'04 Georgetown XL > '17 4018 DSDP FL > '18 DSDP 4327 K2> ‘21 LA 4551 K3
2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon 2 Door
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09-20-2017, 05:13 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Could be anywhere
Posts: 589
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The Dutchstar has all tile floors. That was one of the deciding factors for us over Entegra. In addition, Newmar interiors in general feel more contemporary. Entegra interiors were nice several years ago, but not much has changed since. Our DS 4369 is new, but so far we are delighted with it.
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Randy and Donald
2018 Newmar Dutch Star 4369 K2; 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave
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09-20-2017, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member
Nor'easters Club
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mid-Hudson Valley NY, USA
Posts: 1,332
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Very happy with our 4369. You will be as well. 450 ISL is not as robust as a 600 ISX but I can still break the speed limit and out-pull trucks on long grades.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Ron & Kathy
2020 Newmar London Aire 4569
2019 Ford F150 Limited 450hp
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09-20-2017, 05:41 PM
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Senior Member
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 107
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We considered Entegra but found their unwillingness to make ANY changes a deal breaker. On the other hand Newmar was more than will to make over 20 changes on our 4369 which is do in Sept 28th. Our changes included custom paint, cabinets, and others. Their charge for these changes was more than fair. Couple this with a great dealer, Midway, and we knew we had a winning combination.
Drove an Anthem and the comfort drive of Newmar is a great advantage.
Would advice meeting with Michelle at Newmar and seeing all the things you can do to make it your coach.
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Larry & Marilyn Gawne
2018 DSDP 4369 on a Spartan followed closely by 2019 Lincoln Nautilus
"your not here for long time, your here for a good time"
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09-20-2017, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fulltiming Since 2011
Posts: 1,493
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Hi - If you are going to jump from a Cornerstone to any Newmar I'd suggest you look at coaches on the K3 chassis. That would put you in the MountainAire, LondonAire for a comparable. Dutch Star is a great coach but a step down from a Cornerstone in terms of the basic coach.
Tom
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Tom and Annie & Java
2022 Anthem 44B
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09-20-2017, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Elk Grove, Ca
Posts: 281
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlovitt
Thinking about jumping ship. Appreciate any comments on this model-good, bad or indifferent.
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It was between Newmar and Entegra for us and Newmar won out. If you're looking to comparable to you 15 Cornerstone you'll need to look at Mountain Air or London Air. Mountain Air will have a 12 liter 500/1650 motor and London Air will have the 600/1950 motor both available on the K3 chassis or FCC as well. We've only had our for just over a week and love it. It was roughly 2000 mile drive back to Northern California and the power/torque was sufficient. Good luck with your decision process.
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09-20-2017, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Vail, Arizona
Posts: 2,057
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hmf23
It was between Newmar and Entegra for us and Newmar won out. If you're looking to comparable to you 15 Cornerstone you'll need to look at Mountain Air or London Air. Mountain Air will have a 12 liter 500/1650 motor and London Air will have the 600/1950 motor both available on the K3 chassis or FCC as well. We've only had our for just over a week and love it. It was roughly 2000 mile drive back to Northern California and the power/torque was sufficient. Good luck with your decision process.
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Hmf23 you don’t tell us what had sufficient power/torque, no signature line
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Bill & Chris Bélanger (KI1Z)
'04 Georgetown XL > '17 4018 DSDP FL > '18 DSDP 4327 K2> ‘21 LA 4551 K3
2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon 2 Door
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09-20-2017, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northeast CT
Posts: 1,202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBelanger
Hmf23 you don’t tell us what had sufficient power/torque, no signature line
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pretty sure it's a 2018 mountain aire.....
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2018 Dutch Star 4326 K2 SOLD
2020 LTV Unity 24RL
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09-20-2017, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Elk Grove, Ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBelanger
Hmf23 you don’t tell us what had sufficient power/torque, no signature line
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BBelanger,
My bad, willipaul was correct. 2018 MADP 4531 and I think I've fixed my signature and avatar.
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Brad Hansen
2018 Mountain Aire 4531
NorCal
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09-20-2017, 10:08 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 11
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Dsdp 4369
We have a 2015 4369. It has been a Great coach and believe you would be very pleased with your decision. It is a very functional floor plan. Is it perfect,
No, but what coach is??
As to power, The ISl 450 performs well for it's cubic displacement. The engine brake manages the coach and the Toad very well, even on long 6-8% grades.
We live in the Pacific NW and travel in the Coastal and Rocky mountains alot.
Our travelling friends have a Alergro Bus with a ISX 600. We are never more than 5 minutes apart, even on long grades. Would I like more power, Yes, Do I need more power, No. So it becomes a need want question.
Most of the Commercial Trucks you travel with do not have 600 HP, and they are at 80,000 lbs , and up to 130,000 lbs in the western states.
Think of the House you are buying first and the HP second.
The two Chassis F/L And Spartan are both High End suppliers. I think you would be pleased with either.
I would, if choosing today, probably go with Spartan.
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09-21-2017, 05:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 366
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I wouldn't even think about a Freightliner chassis. They have had at least two fires on dutchstars both of which seem to be a result of lack of quality control. Way to many serious recalls on my 16 dutchstar. There are those with dutchstars that will say they are the best and can't look at it objectively.
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2016 Newmar Dutchstar 4369
Southwest Florida
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09-21-2017, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Lenexa KS
Posts: 2,085
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlovitt
Thinking about jumping ship. Appreciate any comments on this model-good, bad or indifferent.
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I'll be the outlier here. The DS4369 is a fine coach but I came from a coach with more power so my DS4366 seems underpowered to me. I can't imagine you wouldn't feel the same way.
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2002 Safari Zanzibar 3906
1995 Fleetwood Bounder 36JD
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09-22-2017, 02:45 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Vail, Arizona
Posts: 2,057
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlovitt
Thinking about jumping ship. Appreciate any comments on this model-good, bad or indifferent.
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I chose the 4327 over the 4369 because of the angled kitchen which gives you a larger half bath and the cupboards are easier for my short wife to reach. New floorplan for 2018.
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Bill & Chris Bélanger (KI1Z)
'04 Georgetown XL > '17 4018 DSDP FL > '18 DSDP 4327 K2> ‘21 LA 4551 K3
2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon 2 Door
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