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Old 09-05-2019, 04:59 PM   #57
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I read about Newmar not making the 2020 Essex on the Freightliner chassis, but there is one on the North Trail lot.
https://www.northtrailrv.com/invento...ear=0#image-17
Funny I saw that too last week
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:01 PM   #58
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We had a 2017 Newmar King Aire Nothing but trouble with spartan We had to trade it in Bought a 2019 Essex With fruit Shaker I think it rides Better than Spartan So far All good
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:40 PM   #59
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In 2017 the Ventana was only built on the FL chassis, so there was no choice. I am sure all those Newmar owners did their homework when selecting their Spartan chassis and didn't let Marketing influence their choice. When this topic was covered many times before the statement was made that there was no difference between Spartan and FL and that is something we can agree on, there is a difference. As said before we Newmar owners are getting choices and either way we need to decide which is best for our model coach.
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:04 PM   #60
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Service centers

I am not knowledgeable in the technical details of Spartan vs Freightliner. Our choice was made based on seeing Freightliner service centers everywhere and appreciate that safety net.

Also the Gaffney SC service center is convenient for us.
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:30 PM   #61
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You must test drive an Allegro Bus made on the PowerGlide chassis before you choose. Also the Allegro Breeze if you want smaller. The Allegro is far superior in road manners and ride! Designed by Gary Jones who builds race car chassis for Jack Rousch.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:02 PM   #62
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We are looking at moving to a DP and Spartan is one of the possible upgrades. I hear Spartan referred to as better than Freightliner but have never heard why. I would appreciate any comments or opinions
I have a 2007 Newmar Kountry Star with a Spartan chassis. Our unit only has 35,000 miles but the tie rods and ball joints have to be replaced at a cost of about $5,000. Spartan used a Reyco Granning front suspension in the IFS system. The joints can not be lubricated and once the rubber boots fail the mechanisms have to be replaced. Per Spartan the chassis is designed for high mileage but not long life so it was no surprise that the boots failed with an older unit. It is also difficult to find repair shops that will work on a motor home with a Spartan chassis.
My vote goes to FL.
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Itís really not thousands. When you take the discounts off the spartan and add the air option to the freightliner the price difference is nothing. Yes I would pay for better service
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:09 PM   #64
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Good grief! Two Freightliner vs Spartan (or Spartan vs Freightliner) threads running concurrently. I thought we'd long ago decided that it is a matter of personal preference.

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Good grief! Two Freightliner vs Spartan (or Spartan vs Freightliner) threads running concurrently. I thought we'd long ago decided that it is a matter of personal preference.

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Who decided?

Are you suggesting there are no differences between the two?
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I have a 2007 Newmar Kountry Star with a Spartan chassis. Our unit only has 35,000 miles but the tie rods and ball joints have to be replaced at a cost of about $5,000. Spartan used a Reyco Granning front suspension in the IFS system. The joints can not be lubricated and once the rubber boots fail the mechanisms have to be replaced.
Those joints have not been used in many years. That problem does not exist on newer coaches is certainly not relevant when deciding which 2020 chassis to select.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:29 PM   #67
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We are looking at moving to a DP and Spartan is one of the possible upgrades. I hear Spartan referred to as better than Freightliner but have never heard why. I would appreciate any comments or opinions
Freightliner has Freightliner and FCCC dealers nationwide where you can get Freightliner parts and service. Spartan has no Spartan dealers. Easy choice for me;
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Don’t honestly think there is significant difference between the two.
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Don’t honestly think there is significant difference between the two.
A example of the differences was really apparent in 2017 Dutch Star chassis choice. In 17 with no up charge the Spartan DS chassis had disc brakes on all 3 axles with the 40 and 43 foot models. The FL chassis only had disc on front axle. That is a big difference in braking and for most owners would be a major reason to choice Spartan. In 18 the DS had disc on both front and drive axle but drums on tag and again FL only had disc on front. From these post it looks like Spartan chassis owners are more selective with good reason then FL chassis owners.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:27 PM   #70
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I sure am suggesting that there is no significant difference and nothing that is so clearly better in one to make the other a poor choice.

It is like:
BMW vs Mercedes vs Audi

Not like
BMW vs Yugo vs Lasa
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Who decided?

Are you suggesting there are no differences between the two?
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