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Old 01-21-2018, 09:22 AM   #1
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Gas coach (how loud?)

This was mentioned in another thread but I didn't want to derail OPs topic. We are waiting on Baystar 3414 to be built and was wondering how bad is the noise from engine during travel? Some comments have made it seem almost unbearable. We should have but didn't test drive a model at least similar to what we purchased.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:45 AM   #2
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I am sure you will be fine and enjoy your RV.
Some folks add some thermal / noise blanket under the engine cover to further reduce noise. There is a thread with the name "Dynamat" which is a product used for this purpose if you want to read up.

Will it be silent - no.
Will it be as quiet as a DP? - no
Will you be able to have a conversation - yes
Can you make it quieter? - yes
Should you? - drive it and see if it's objectionable to you first.

If it was "unbearable" to most all people...they wouldn't be selling Gas RVs...which I suspect are being sold at all time high rates.

Everyone has their own pet peeve on every subject and a forum is where you will meet them.
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I am sure you will be fine and enjoy your RV.
Some folks add some thermal / noise blanket under the engine cover to further reduce noise. There is a thread with the name "Dynamat" which is a product used for this purpose if you want to read up.
I will thanks. Is this something that I install or done at production?
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post production. There is some insulation installed by the factory. The post production just replaces the original with "more" or adds to what is there.

But drive it and determine if anything needs to be done at all.

I did some on my Bounder, but that was more about "upgrading" which is part of my hobby / interest in RVs. Did it make a difference? yes, was it needed? Probably not.
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When climbing a sterp hill the Ford v10 really spins up and is loud. On level cruise its not bad. Not as quiet as a DP of course, but entirely tolerable.
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I can't speak for all brands but I can tell you my Bay Star isn't much louder than my Jeep Wrangler. And that's quieter than our old Scion XB. You can totally have a conversation. I'm actually surprised at how quiet it is.

I think the horror stories are from owners or entry level class A's like FR3's and ACE's. I could be wrong but that's my impression.
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The only time you will have excessive noise with the new Ford systems is pulling a long steep grade or your foot being too heavy.
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Ours was so loud we couldn’t have a conversation at a normal level. We had Hush Mat installed in the entire cab and new carpet and pad installed. Also the whole “doghouse “ was insulated with Hush Mat and then more fiberglass insulation. After all that the noise was “tolerable”. Before the modifications the heat was crazy. My wife hated sitting in the passenger seat it was so hot. After the changes it was “passable “. Now we have a DP so noise isn’t a problem. Some manufacturers do an excellent job sound insulation.
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Our Canyon Star is quieter than our Roadtrek until we accelerate fast or climb hills, then it's much louder. The V10 likes to run at around 4000RPM going up hills and it is harder to have conversations. On level roads and gentle hills we can have conversations at normal levels, the engine noise is very muted and the wind noise from the mirror actually bothers me more.
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This was mentioned in another thread but I didn't want to derail OPs topic. We are waiting on Baystar 3414 to be built and was wondering how bad is the noise from engine during travel? Some comments have made it seem almost unbearable. We should have but didn't test drive a model at least similar to what we purchased.


Newmar does a good job of insulating under the dog house (better than most manufacturers). To further reduce noise, add the aftermarket item 5Star Tune. Among other things, it changes the transmission shift points. Here’s the link: 5startuning.com

You’ll find plenty of information about 5Star Tune on iRV2.

We did that to our 2013 Newmar Canyon Star and were extremely pleased with the results.
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This was mentioned in another thread but I didn't want to derail OPs topic. We are waiting on Baystar 3414 to be built and was wondering how bad is the noise from engine during travel? Some comments have made it seem almost unbearable. We should have but didn't test drive a model at least similar to what we purchased.
We have a 2017 Newmar Canyon Star.

You will be fine.

When cruising, you will not know you have an engine running, as a matter of fact, it is quieter then the DP we had which always had the diesel motor grinding away 40' back - - think city bus, Greyhound bus.

You will notice the engine noise when you are going up or down a hill and the engine kicks up to 4000+ RPM, but we talk with normal voices - no shouting. As a matter of fact, the dog, who likes to sleep with his head on the "dog house", never moves.

The dog house does not add any heat to the cabin area, although it will feel warm to the touch in mid July with the temps in the 90s. Otherwise, cool to the touch.

As a disclaimer, my diesel was a 2002 Newmar Dutch Star Pusher, my gas model is a 2017 - - I am sure improvements has been made on all models at all levels.

We have a 5 Star tune also....

You will be fine in your 2018 BS.

Congratulations, enjoy, and good luck. How exciting having your new motor home built!!

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We have a 2017 Newmar Canyon Star.

You will be fine.

When cruising, you will not know you have an engine running, as a matter of fact, it is quieter then the DP we had which always had the diesel motor grinding away 40' back - - think city bus, Greyhound bus.

You will notice the engine noise when you are going up or down a hill and the engine kicks up to 4000+ RPM, but we talk with normal voices - no shouting. As a matter of fact, the dog, who likes to sleep with his head on the "dog house", never moves.

The dog house does not add any heat to the cabin area, although it will feel warm to the touch in mid July with the temps in the 90s. Otherwise, cool to the touch.

As a disclaimer, my diesel was a 2002 Newmar Dutch Star Pusher, my gas model is a 2017 - - I am sure improvements has been made on all models at all levels.

We have a 5 Star tune also....

You will be fine in your 2018 BS.

Congratulations, enjoy, and good luck. How exciting having your new motor home built!!

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X2....this has been the same thing we have experienced with our 2014 Canyon Star. Newmar does a great job in the engineering of the MH to the chassis, and it definitely has an improved ride and noise difference over many other brands. Good Luck, and look forward to the delivery of your new MH, you will really love it.
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X2....this has been the same thing we have experienced with our 2014 Canyon Star. Newmar does a great job in the engineering of the MH to the chassis, and it definitely has an improved ride and noise difference over many other brands. Good Luck, and look forward to the delivery of your new MH, you will really love it.
X3. At cruising speeds we can carry on a normal conversation. Up and down hills, when it is up and down shifting, it will get loud, but that is temporary and usually doesn't last long.
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Our Canyon Star is quieter than our Roadtrek until we accelerate fast or climb hills, then it's much louder. The V10 likes to run at around 4000RPM going up hills and it is harder to have conversations. On level roads and gentle hills we can have conversations at normal levels, the engine noise is very muted and the wind noise from the mirror actually bothers me more.
My thoughts exactly.
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