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01-23-2018, 04:58 PM
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Gold Heat Floor Heating System
Hello,
We have a 2017 DutchStar 3736, with the heated floors. We have 4 sections of heated flooring. The two in the back bathroom and bedroom are not working. When we push the on button, we can hear it click, but no heat. We have found the silver box that has all the wiring and checked to see if there are any disconnected wiring, and everything appears to be tight.
When we look at the user manual We see a thermostat that has a GFI attached to it. We cannot locate the thermostats in or on our coach. We have also checked all regular GFIs and they are all working, so there is none blow, We have replaced the fuse just to make sure and we have checked the circuit breakers. So the only thing left that we can think is that it is the GFI that is actually on the thermostat, that we cannot locate.
So does anyone know where these thermostats are? Or have any ideas?
Thanks
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01-23-2018, 07:03 PM
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Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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A Newmar search engine result.
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01-23-2018, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsolomon
When we push the on button, we can hear it click, but no heat.
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The relays are 12 volts. That is the click. In the NA there are 3 zones all going through one dedicated circuit breaker and a one dedicated GFI.
Does your floor heat have one or two circuit breakers? If two, then there is likely a dedicated GFI for each.
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01-23-2018, 07:55 PM
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We have 2 circuit breakers. We cannot find the GFIs for the floor heaters. According to the manual they each should have a GFI. It looks like Newmar installs a better looking way to turn them on, and may not actually use the thermostat that comes with them. However, there should still be a GFI for them, right?
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01-23-2018, 07:58 PM
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Thanks for this link, that is really cool....How would I be able to do that myself?
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01-23-2018, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsolomon
We have 2 circuit breakers. We cannot find the GFIs for the floor heaters. According to the manual they each should have a GFI. It looks like Newmar installs a better looking way to turn them on, and may not actually use the thermostat that comes with them. However, there should still be a GFI for them, right?
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Look above your electric panel and see if there are two GFI outlets. I was told these were for the floor heat, but have not confirmed it. We have 4054, and have 4 zones as well, but only 3 switches. The switch in the bedroom controls the bedroom and bathroom. The switch in the bathroom controls the galley, and the switch in the living room controls the living room.
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01-23-2018, 08:47 PM
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Its all explained here from sticky above, important stuff for Newmar owners.
Maybe you need this link also.
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01-23-2018, 08:56 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsolomon
Hello,
We have a 2017 DutchStar 3736, with the heated floors. We have 4 sections of heated flooring. The two in the back bathroom and bedroom are not working. When we push the on button, we can hear it click, but no heat. We have found the silver box that has all the wiring and checked to see if there are any disconnected wiring, and everything appears to be tight.
When we look at the user manual We see a thermostat that has a GFI attached to it. We cannot locate the thermostats in or on our coach. We have also checked all regular GFIs and they are all working, so there is none blow, We have replaced the fuse just to make sure and we have checked the circuit breakers. So the only thing left that we can think is that it is the GFI that is actually on the thermostat, that we cannot locate.
So does anyone know where these thermostats are? Or have any ideas?
Thanks
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In my 4369 there are 2 gfi outlets in the cabinet where the 110 breakers are located in my 1/2 bath, I believe they are related to the floors
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01-23-2018, 09:23 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BattChief
Look above your electric panel and see if there are two GFI outlets. I was told these were for the floor heat, but have not confirmed it. We have 4054, and have 4 zones as well, but only 3 switches. The switch in the bedroom controls the bedroom and bathroom. The switch in the bathroom controls the galley, and the switch in the living room controls the living room.
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Three switches and four zones doesn’t really jive. In my 2017 4018 there were three zones. The bathroom switch heated the bathroom. The bedroom switch heated the bedroom floor up to about the refrigerator. The living room controlled that up to the driver compartment. FYI, there are no “thermostats” for the floor heat. Low power turns the elements on for about 15 minutes, then off for a set period of time. Medium leaves the elements on longer and I believe high leaves them on for 29 minutes. I’m not exactly sure about the timing, just that it is not more power for different settings, just a longer cycle time. That’s what the relays do. If someone had a few hours to kill, you could watch the amp draw when you turn on the floor heat and watch it cycle, or ask tech support at Newmar. But that would be like asking for directions. Get the DW to call Newmar and get back to us.
Stuart, the GFIs in the half bath are for the floor heat. A blinking light indicates a bad GFI. I had to replace one.
The 3736 might have a different system.
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01-23-2018, 09:48 PM
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While everyone is talking about the floor heat I need to ask a question.
We have a 2018 4018 with heated floors. I need to ask if anyone has had or does have a problem with the switches controlling the wrong areas? On our coach the front switch controls the bedroom, the bedroom switch controls the back bath, and the back bath switch controls the front room. The system works great otherwise. You just need to remember to turn on the right switch for the area you want to heat.
We have several other problems and are going to make an appointment at Newmar to have them look at the system and let them figure it out. Dealer looked at it a week after we picked it up and said it would be best to take it back to factory.
Otherwise for out first DP I think it can't be beat.
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01-23-2018, 09:55 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Vail, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstMH
While everyone is talking about the floor heat I need to ask a question.
We have a 2018 4018 with heated floors. I need to ask if anyone has had or does have a problem with the switches controlling the wrong areas? On our coach the front switch controls the bedroom, the bedroom switch controls the back bath, and the back bath switch controls the front room. The system works great otherwise. You just need to remember to turn on the right switch for the area you want to heat.
We have several other problems and are going to make an appointment at Newmar to have them look at the system and let them figure it out. Dealer looked at it a week after we picked it up and said it would be best to take it back to factory.
Otherwise for out first DP I think it can't be beat.
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Sure sounds like someone plugged the wires onto the wrong connector. Shouldn’t require the factory to figure it out especially on a new coach. I’d try a different dealer.
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01-23-2018, 10:33 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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I also thought that the 2018 add one more heat pad in the slide floor of the bedroom.. and I believe that make 4 zones, so does the 2017also have 4 zones?
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01-23-2018, 10:46 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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There is heat in the slide of the bedroom but it’s controlled by the same switch, so I wouldn’t call it another zone. Maybe we’re just talking semantics here. 1 switch = 1 zone
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'04 Georgetown XL > '17 4018 DSDP FL > '18 DSDP 4327 K2> ‘21 LA 4551 K3
2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon 2 Door
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01-24-2018, 05:39 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBelanger
Three switches and four zones doesn’t really jive. In my 2017 4018 there were three zones.
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Four zones and three switches on my floor plan. The zones are living, galley, main bathroom and bedroom. The main bathroom and bedroom zones are combined on one switch.
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2015 Dutch Star 4381 - HWH Active Air, SilverLeaf Glass Dash & Total Coach
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