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01-08-2018, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Southwest Michigan
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Heat Pump A/C's or Regular A/C's?
Putting together the options list for our Canyon Star.
What's the consensus on the 13.5 heat pump AC's vs. the standard 13.5 A/C's? Worth the rather small charge for the upgrade to heat pumps?
How much of an issue is the heat pumps not getting warm air down to the near floor area due to the ceiling vent locations?
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01-08-2018, 06:35 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Mid Atlantic Campers Ford Super Duty Owner Coastal Campers
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sterling, VA
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We felt it was worth it. Unless on metered electric, might as well let someone else pay for heat. You might also consider as a special upgrading the front or both units to 15k. There’s a lot of glass up front and subsequent area to heat or cool.
We don’t notice any issues with heat not getting circulated towards the floor. Once below 37 - 40 degrees we use the furnace anyway.
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Bill and Dustee and the Kids
2018 Newmar Bay Star 3406
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
FMCA: F482061 | NKK: 22422
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01-08-2018, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 136
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Heat Pumps vs AC
We have 2 heat pumps on a 2012 Ventana that we ordered new. To date, we've had to replace a total of 8 of them. Sounds ridiculous, but it's true. Every one of them have been replaced under warranty without question. Dometic has a 2 year warranty; thank goodness for that. Replace the last one right after Xmas and it's still working fine. Heat pumps seem to take a little longer to warm up the coach but they are much quieter than the furnace. We usually just use the furnace to get the coach up to temp, then use the heat pumps to maintain. Good luck, either way you go they're probably made in China. Be sure to give them a good workout to be sure they will hang in.
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Snoopkat
2021 Newmr Bay Star Sport 3014
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01-08-2018, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Both our DSDP's had the heat pumps. Here in the NW a lot if the houses do to as it's the cheapest way to heat.
Present rig has 3 15kw heat pumps, but I also have an AquaHot and heated floors. I prefer the floor heat and AquaHot.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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01-08-2018, 07:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 555
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I like my 13,500 heat pumps and they keep my Canyon Star warm and they are more powerful than electric heat towers. But like the previous poster said I have had three replaced 2 front and 1 rear. All under warranty. The last one came directly from the Domedic head quarters. My rear has been working for almost 2 years and the front for 4 months we will see. But I still like the idea of the heat pumps.
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2015 Canyon Star 3424
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01-08-2018, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
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Definitely heat pumps. We use them whenever possible instead of propane furnace. Cheaper to operate - if CG electric is included. Effective to about 40 degrees.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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01-08-2018, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Holbrook Long Island New York
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Although somewhat on topic with heating the coach what do you guys think about the fireplace option as a heat source?
I know it is electric too but I believe there isn't that 40 degree cutoff like the heat pumps. Not sure how much heat comes out and whether or not it really heats the coach without the furnace on but I don't really know. Anyone use the fireplace for heating the coach as opposed to the heat pumps or furnace or as a supplement to either one?
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01-08-2018, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
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My AC guy tells me that the reason RV heat pumps act up is because they dont get used enough, especially in heat mode, so the reversing valves freeze up. Since I’ve got both of mine working well now, I like them.
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01-08-2018, 11:09 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,122
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We don't use ours a lot because we live out west and just don't have a need for them. We also find them noisy. With that said, they work well for heating overnight. When we do use ours, we'll turn the front on when we're in bed and let the warm air migrate to the bedroom. We find that is much better than the heater blasting you in the bedroom. When watching TV up front we'll turn on the bedroom heat pump to keep the noise down.
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Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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01-08-2018, 11:44 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rvlegaleagle
Although somewhat on topic with heating the coach what do you guys think about the fireplace option as a heat source?
I know it is electric too but I believe there isn't that 40 degree cutoff like the heat pumps. Not sure how much heat comes out and whether or not it really heats the coach without the furnace on but I don't really know. Anyone use the fireplace for heating the coach as opposed to the heat pumps or furnace or as a supplement to either one?
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The fireplace is a electric resistive space heater. And as such not subject to temperature limitation of a heat pump. Yes, use it as supplemental heat or only heat in mild cold.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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01-09-2018, 05:04 AM
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Member
Carolina Campers
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: New Jersey
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I have been using my heat pumps this whole week in Florida where it has been in the low forties. I found they heat better than the propane furnace. I love them.
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01-09-2018, 05:06 AM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikkleballer
Putting together the options list for our Canyon Star.
What's the consensus on the 13.5 heat pump AC's vs. the standard 13.5 A/C's? Worth the rather small charge for the upgrade to heat pumps?
How much of an issue is the heat pumps not getting warm air down to the near floor area due to the ceiling vent locations?
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I opted to go with the 15k heat pumps special order, front and rear on my 3710 canyon star. Figured get as much cooling as possible due to all that glass out front. No such thing as too much!
Marc
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2018 Newmar Canyon Star 3710
2018 Kia Soul and ACME EZ Tow Dolly
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01-09-2018, 05:10 AM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 534
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rvlegaleagle
Although somewhat on topic with heating the coach what do you guys think about the fireplace option as a heat source?
I know it is electric too but I believe there isn't that 40 degree cutoff like the heat pumps. Not sure how much heat comes out and whether or not it really heats the coach without the furnace on but I don't really know. Anyone use the fireplace for heating the coach as opposed to the heat pumps or furnace or as a supplement to either one?
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We have the electric fireplace in our CSCA and it is good for a supplemental heat source. Still need furnace or heat pumps to provide heat for the entire coach. Our fireplace also shuts down after some use as a safety feature.
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2019 Newmar Ventana LE 4002
2015 Kia Soul
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01-09-2018, 05:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Holbrook Long Island New York
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Thanks for the information on the fire place .
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