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Old 04-01-2015, 02:30 PM   #1
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Cool Honda Genny Open Ground

I recently purchased a Honda eu200i and my surge protector is not recognizing it because it's an open ground. While I was at Key West one gentleman explained this particular problem to me but I really wasn't paying too much attention, anyone have a fix for this? Whatever input would be awesome.

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Old 04-01-2015, 03:57 PM   #2
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Open ground is normal with portable generators (I have in the past explained why)

You can buy a "Bonding plug" or you can make one

But a plug with screw terminals and a couple inches of 12 or 14 GA

One screw is copper colored.. Tighten it firmly

One is silver/aluminum colored One end of short wire goes under this screw..Other end under the GREEN screw..Tighten both plug into other 15/20 amp outlet

NOTE: This works on Honda Inverter models

SOME generators MAY BE DAMAGED by this procedure. The only one I know it works with is Honda inverter models.
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Bonding Plug

Thanks for the explanation wa8yxm. I'm no electrical genius and I somewhat understand what you are saying, however, you wouldn't happen to have a picture? I'd hate to blow this generator up before I ever get it hooked up properly to my MH.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:22 PM   #4
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Thanks for the explanation wa8yxm. I'm no electrical genius and I somewhat understand what you are saying, however, you wouldn't happen to have a picture? I'd hate to blow this generator up before I ever get it hooked up properly to my MH.
YIKES! I don't think THAT is a good idea, at all. Why do feel the need to do so?
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:54 PM   #5
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Check this site

Generator Ground-Neutral Bonding | No~Shock~Zone

This site will explain everything. It's a good site for non technical folks.

Here a portion of the subject

"N-G Bonding Plug2It’s pretty simple to wire a special “Ground-Neutral Bond” jumper cable for your Honda or Yamaha generator which will allow you to power your RV through its voltage protection device. You can obtain or make a dummy 15 or 20 amp “Edison” plug with the Neutral (white) and Ground (green) screws jump together with a piece of 12 or 14 gauge wire (see photos below). This G-N jumper plug can be plugged into one of the generator’s unused 20-amp outlets, and the entire generator’s electrical system will be N-G bonded. You can then use the other 20-amp Edison outlet or the 30-am"
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Not a very good picture LAC but.. It is a picture and it is proper.

EDGray... I know it does not SOUND like a good idea but I have seen many photos in other threads on these and other forums showing the plug (much better than the above) and they are safe... BUT,,as I warned.

I know these work with the honda INVRTER models... I also know that some other modls they do not work and may cause damage.

But the only ones I am SURE it will work with is the Honda EU-#000i modls.
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“Ground-Neutral Bond”

I've pretty much spent most of yesterday and well into the evening reading about the "Open Ground" issue. A lot of articles disputing many different techniques by people who have a lot more experience about this subject than me. I know I don't want to open up my Honda at this juncture so I'm going to attempt the "Dummy Plug" and see if it's successful. From what I've read so far I'm confident it will.

I appreciate all the input from everyone. Safe travels to all of you.
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I've pretty much spent most of yesterday and well into the evening reading about the "Open Ground" issue. A lot of articles disputing many different techniques by people who have a lot more experience about this subject than me. I know I don't want to open up my Honda at this juncture so I'm going to attempt the "Dummy Plug" and see if it's successful. From what I've read so far I'm confident it will.

I appreciate all the input from everyone. Safe travels to all of you.
Safe travels to you as we'll....your more than welcome. Glad to help. That's what these forums are all about.
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I had the exact issue..I have a Honda inverter 2000.....and the Surge Guard.....

Had a spare plug in the garage, hooked the gnd and neutral together and problem solved...Marked it for Honda gen only ....Took about 5 minutes....
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I've pretty much spent most of yesterday and well into the evening reading about the "Open Ground" issue. A lot of articles disputing many different techniques by people who have a lot more experience about this subject than me. I know I don't want to open up my Honda at this juncture so I'm going to attempt the "Dummy Plug" and see if it's successful. From what I've read so far I'm confident it will.

I appreciate all the input from everyone. Safe travels to all of you.
I wish you only good luck if you persue this idea, but I can't help wondering what you hope to accomplish by hooking up a 2K portable generator to a 50 Amp DP. You seem to be more worried about damaging the Honda than what IT might do to your expensive coach. That is my concern, but it is your coach and your money, so good luck!
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