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Old 03-19-2007, 02:47 PM   #15
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Wow! Thanks to all of you who took the time to answer.

Let me try to answer all of you - the solenoids are in fact mounted vertically, but in the MADP they are located in front of the steps under the generator slide cover. When I got the jacks retracted, I looked at the solenoids and they were clean and tight, so road yuck wasn't the problem this time anyway. BTW Bob - spoke to Carl at Newmar today and they are shipping a new solenoid AND the new mounting bracket.

Tommy - mine are located as above, when you crawl under the front end, they are at the extreme front of the generator slide cover on the passenger side (ie - at the corner where the front cap turns the corner going toward the door). The one I whacked is the one with the silver bottom. One hit (not really hard) and down the coach comes. PLEASE DO NOT GET CRUSHED as it drops REALLY fast.

Siggy - I tried to make them move with the ignition switch in the left position, the aux position and with the coach running. No joy.

Lane - the first some I had trouble was with the jacks not retracting. One whack and up they went!

Tom - The shuttle valve is a new one for me. I'll look tomorrow.

Thanks again all!
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:33 PM   #16
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New jack issue: while driving in snow along I-77 in the mountains of WVA on Saturday, my JACKS DOWN buzzer came on. Jacks were up but sensor was frozen and would stop for over 2 hours. By the time I decided to pull the wires on the jacks, the buzzer stopped. I kept pressing the off button to silence the alarm. According to Brian of Newmar, this tends to occur in cold snowy weather.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:36 PM   #17
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Mark, it sounds like the relays are all mounted in pretty much the same place.

BTW, when you do get that bracket,your relays will THEN be mounted with the lugs on their side...

I know Peter mentioned these relays being used in many "all weather" applications, but there's a reason Newmar is sending out these brackets.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:47 AM   #18
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Bob - I agree wholeheartedly.

Jerry - I had the same problem with the jacks on my 03 KSDP. What I found out was - don't shut off the panel after the red jack lights go out. Rather, keep the retract cycle active until the unit shuts itself off - HWH says can take 5 minutes. Sometimes the jacks have retracted enough to turn the light off, but haven't seated themselves completely. Then, as you travel, they may move just enough to set off the buzzer.

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Mark, I was told to NEVER turn the power off to the panel once you've intiated a command, that it's best to let the HWH brain do it's thing...

I'd imagine since that's an HWH "thing" it'd be good advice throughout the model lines.
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Tom & Patty were right on with the shuttle valve sticking. Went by the HWH booth today at FMCA rally. Go to opposite end of the manifold where the shuttle valve is and unscrew brass cap 3 turns , or until you hear a click, then tighten the same fitting. push the button and it should work.
By the way, the shuttle valve looks like a brass fitting on top of the manifold, on the RH end.
NEVER turn off the system when it's in a cycle. This messes with the "Brain" and allows it to bleed down.
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Thanks for the advice. When I encountered the problem, I pulled over and set the jacks, then retracted them and let the system turn off by itself. This did not correct the situation. Brian from Newmar thought the problem had more to do with the snow and ice under the MH. I have also have experienced a few problems with the suspension airing up after I dump the suspension and turn off the HWH before the "brain" was finished. I looked at a coach today that levels on it's own suspension....never liked having jacks.
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My shuttle valve has a u-shaped tube attached at the top of the valve(like a brake line). The other side of the u-shaped tube attaches at another point on the manifold.

I had to remove the tube to replace the shuttle valve.
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Hey cuz...after three pages of posts - did the problem get fixed?
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Not yet - I'm still waiting for the parts to cpme from Newmar. We'll see!
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:33 AM   #25
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To close the loop - parts arrived and were installed yesterday. Jacks worked fine.

Time will tell if this is a lasting fix.

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