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12-31-2015, 07:10 AM
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Senior Member
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I think the whole thing is a troll. Nothing is reliable in a 12 year old coach. Not saying it does not work or may not keep working, am saying in may break at any time.
The toilet trick is why we never hook to city water. It happened to us with the old unit. Now we run off tank water because it limits the amount of damage that can be done while alerting us because the pump is running. Also easy to just shut the pump off and avoid issues when gone as well as using the fresh gauge as a check against the black and gray tank gauges.
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12-31-2015, 08:43 AM
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That's like calling my 57 T-Bird a lemon because the radiator sprung a leak. I would lay the blame on your dealers shoulder's, and a little on you as well. You probably should have verified that the dealer did what he was supposed to do, before you left. And with a new to you coach, I would have probably turned the water off before I left, for the first few times. I know that's not what you want to hear, and you have enough problem to think about right now. Good luck! Get her fixed and enjoy it!!!
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Bill & Denise
2014 Bay Star 3103 - 5 Star Tune, CHF, Magne Shade
2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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12-31-2015, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Sorry you bought a coach with issues. Things like this can occur with all vehicles that are older.
I think your title is inappropriate for the complaints you have.
It should read "I will not buy a used coach again".
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Tour 42QD/InTech Stacker
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12-31-2015, 09:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
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X2 - What he said
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Bill & Denise
2014 Bay Star 3103 - 5 Star Tune, CHF, Magne Shade
2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
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12-31-2015, 01:11 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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My Monaco must have been a lemon too! If performed flawlessly for 9 years and then the toilet valve on the Thetford toilet broke and started flooding the bath while we were watching TV. Then Monaco had the nerve to install tires that only lasted 7 years. Looking back, that coach was nothing but trouble!
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Don & Mary
2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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12-31-2015, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
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Can't blame Newmar for some of that. Hose breaks on hydro hot. Newmar didn't make that hose. Toilet filled and ran over. Did you check to make sure the valve had secured itself so water wouldn't run? Owner error there if you didn't. Slide out don't work. Can't comment on that as you didn't describe more. Come on it's 11 years old and things do happen. You've owned 5 and this is the only one that has failed you so you wouldn't purchase another one. Hmmm. I guess you shouldn't purchase another used coach as these problems can happen with any brand.
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04 NEWMAR MACA 3778 W22 / 05 PT Vert
Michigan (Summer) Michigan (Winter For Now)
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12-31-2015, 02:04 PM
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Community Moderator
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
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Like others have said, I believe your issue is with the dealer not Newmar. Prior to buying the coach did you have it inspected to determine whether you were buying a well maintained MH? All MHs that old have problems.
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2016 London Aire 4519, Freightliner chassis, Cummins ISX, 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Blue Ox Avail with AF1. TST 507 TPMS
No amount of money can buy you an extra second of time.
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01-01-2016, 05:40 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Barrington, NH
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We live fulltime in our 2004 Mountain Aire 4301 coach. Ours was purchased a year ago used from a local dealer that specializes in consignment sales of high quality used coaches. Prior to finalizing a sale the coach is checked to make sure all systems work and all obvious problems are taken care of. He won't work with owners that are not willing to spend the money to get thing fixed because his reputation will be the one that suffers. With that being said we expected to find a few problems on a used coach. We have been extremely pleased with the Newmar Mountain Aire it's a beautiful coach. I like being busy and am the happiest when I have projects to do and a tool in my hand. A motorcoach is complex piece of equipment with many different systems. Learning those systems and how to fix and maintain them is necessary unless you have a fatter wallet than I do. The IRV2 forums is a great resource for information to help with problems that might occur.
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2004 Mountain Aire 4301
Toad 2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
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01-01-2016, 05:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
My Monaco must have been a lemon too! If performed flawlessly for 9 years and then the toilet valve on the Thetford toilet broke and started flooding the bath while we were watching TV. Then Monaco had the nerve to install tires that only lasted 7 years. Looking back, that coach was nothing but trouble!
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Not to mention the fact that Monaco obviously installed a fuel tank that had a leak , why on a long trip, I'll bet you constantly had to refill the tank because the fuel was apparently leaking out somewhere!
Hope the OP can get past the initial teething issues and settle down and enjoy his (new to him) coach!
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Newmar 4 wheel drive Dutch Star 3891, SOLD
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01-01-2016, 06:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Not for nothing, and I am not a lawyer, but a motorhome that has multiple problems does not qualify as a "lemon" unless a problem cannot be repaired or replaced by a dealer, within a period of time. The fact that you have lots of problems, and poor dealer support is another issue, and one with which I have dealt over the years, but has nothing to do with a lemon.
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01-01-2016, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by myliladog
The dealer is located in central Oregon
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Would you say the name of the Dealer? We bought our 2903 Baystar in Junction City and have been very happy so far. I have had to do a few things with cabinet hinges and a few other things but don't mind. Ours was new when we bought it. We have had 4 MH's and their is always something that needs to be done. Never bought one 11 years old though. I don't think the dealer would know that it had problems if someone traded it in and told them everything was good with it.
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01-01-2016, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 2,514
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nothermark
I think the whole thing is a troll. Nothing is reliable in a coach. Not saying it does not work or may not keep working, am saying in may break at any time.
The toilet trick is why we never hook to city water. It happened to us with the old unit. Now we run off tank water because it limits the amount of damage that can be done while alerting us because the pump is running. Also easy to just shut the pump off and avoid issues when gone as well as using the fresh gauge as a check against the black and gray tank gauges.
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There, I deleted the 12year old part for you
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01-03-2016, 02:30 PM
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Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Home in Benton Ky.
Posts: 57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vapor3000
Never, never, never buy a used MH from any dealer. Always buy from the owner who knows the coach. A dealer will lie about the condition to make the sale. It's pretty easy to tell if the owner is a liar by talking to them.
Your bad deal is NOT a Newmar problem.
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You nailed it.
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01-03-2016, 11:00 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 211
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Yes buy new. You wouldn't have had to buy so many in the past if you bought new!
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