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hillboy · 03-21-2013, 01:58 PM

2001 Newmar Mountain Aire

The switch on the panel won't put Battery's into store mode. So I choose the Relay won't disengage option on the trouble shooting sheet.

Intellitec trouble shooting sheet says: while the switch (BD-1) is engaged check for voltage across the coil terminals (+ on the S terminal and ground on the I terminal) if 0 volts replace panel, if + voltage, replace relay.
Multi meter shows 6.5 volts but with a minus sign which I take to mean polarity reversal.

So with little electrical knowledge I am not sure what the message is. Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

PS: I found the left hand 5amp fuse blown and I replaced it before I followed the above instructions.

"007" · 03-21-2013, 09:36 PM

That 5 amp fuse is in your starting circuit, here is some info on Bird System and may have some info you need.
You probably have the old Bird and not new one for DP's.

hillboy · 03-22-2013, 05:18 AM

Thanks for the reply. My sig does not state that the MH is DP and I should add that fact. What year was the "Bird" updated?
How does the BIRD interact with the Intellitec batt disconnect system, is my next question?

It will take a while to wade through the posts you provided. At least the coach is stuck with the DC power on and no rush to fix. I may just replace the relay.
A direct contact with Intellitec is next on my list. Thanks again.

bruceisla · 03-22-2013, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillboy

Thanks for the reply. My sig does not state that the MH is DP and I should add that fact. What year was the "Bird" updated?
How does the BIRD interact with the Intellitec batt disconnect system, is my next question?

It will take a while to wade through the posts you provided. At least the coach is stuck with the DC power on and no rush to fix. I may just replace the relay.
A direct contact with Intellitec is next on my list. Thanks again.

The BIRD and the Battery Disconnect are not related (other than usually manufactured by Intellitec). HOWEVER, they both are sometimes shown on the same wiring diagram. You may need to sort out which wiring is applicable.

"007" · 03-22-2013, 06:52 AM

Newmar did have FRED's during your model year.
The BIRD would be like the gas one not the DP.
May find the Bird on fire wall next to the solenoids and battery cables on them.

hillboy · 03-22-2013, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "007"

Newmar did have FRED's during your model year.
The BIRD would be like the gas one not the DP.
May find the Bird on fire wall next to the solenoids and battery cables on them.

Thanks for that info.

I have a MountainAire Pusher and I believe I have located the BIRD in the same compartment as the 50 am cable storage behind the Velcro held panel that also contains the intelletec relay and another "White Rodgers" solenoid (I think). Slow progress, but then again it is in the teens in upstate NY. Thanks to all and any additional info welcome.

bruceisla · 03-22-2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillboy

Thanks for that info.

I have a MountainAire Pusher and I believe I have located the BIRD in the same compartment as the 50 am cable storage behind the Velcro held panel that also contains the intelletec relay and another "White Rodgers" solenoid (I think). Slow progress, but then again it is in the teens in upstate NY. Thanks to all and any additional info welcome.

Please be aware that the BIRD functions as a device to connect the Chassis Batteries and the House Batteries together, under certain circumstances, to allow simultaneous charging. It (the BIRD) DOES NOT control disconnection of the batteries from the motorhome. It's good to know if you have a BIRD (or an IRD) and where it is located, but that won't fix your Battery Disconnect problem.

If you go here:
http://www.dodgenmobiletech.com/site...ay%20Delay.pdf
you will find, on page 4, the wiring diagram illustrating BOTH the BIRD and the Battery Disconnect solenoids/relays. Note that the engage/disengage circuits are not illustrated for the Disconnect Relays/Solenoids ... that's because they are NOT controlled by the BIRD. They are illustrated on the same page because the 3 relays/solenoids are quite often in close proximity to each other (short large diameter battery cables).

The circuit you want is here:
http://www.flemingsalesoem.com/intel...5322019100.pdf

page 9 if you have Battery Disconnect for both Chassis and House.

Note that the Battery Disconnect Relays/Solenoids are engaged/disengaged by reversing the voltage on pins "S" and "I". In other words, the actuator in the Relay/Solenoid is "pushed" or "pulled" depending on polarity.

hillboy · 03-22-2013, 04:39 PM

Note that the Battery Disconnect Relays/Solenoids are engaged/disengaged by reversing the voltage on pins "S" and "I". In other words, the actuator in the Relay/Solenoid is "pushed" or "pulled" depending on polarity.
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Thanks. Folks have provided me with lots of info which I will look at. I'll post any progress.