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11-23-2017, 05:29 AM
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Interior: Entegra vs. Newmar
When I watch the RV shows on TV and see Entegra (not having seen one in person yet) it seems that Entegra may have the edge on interior design. Their coaches seem warmer and more appealing on the interiors vs. Newmar. Leather, wood, colors... I love my VTDP as I've said before and love the company and community but I'm just curious who is more appealing when it comes to the interior? What's your opinion on floor plans but more so on the actual look and feel of the inside when comparing the two brands?
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11-23-2017, 05:45 AM
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Neal, you should try to make the Tampa show in Jan. I believe most of the manufacturers exhibit there.
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11-23-2017, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lostinfla
Neal, you should try to make the Tampa show in Jan. I believe most of the manufacturers exhibit there.
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I thought about going but then realized it would be wise to avoid
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11-23-2017, 05:49 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Newmar Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Spartan Chassis
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Interior: Entegra vs. Newmar
Can’t disagree with you on your design observation. I’ve been in all the Entegras (except the new one - Insignia) and I have lots of friends who own one.
We thought seriously about getting an Anthem a few months back when we ended up buying our DS. We even went to Middlebury in 2015 when we also toured the Newmar plant in Nappanee.
Ultimately, we decided the Entegra product actually had a bit too much glitz for our taste. And we felt Newmar had several “edge” factors with Comfort Drive, More Floor (DW really wanted to get the carpet out of the coach), and the rear escape door.
Others will point out that there is little in the way of customization that Entegra will allow, while I’m sure some will say the Entegra units are so close to perfection you don’t need to change anything.
Since both the higher end Entegras and Newmars either come standard on the Spartan Chasis, or are available on a Spartan (DS) and I know how much Neal likes the Spartan over the FL.......
This will be a fun thread to watch!
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11-23-2017, 05:53 AM
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Having owned both an Entegra Anthem and now a London Aire I can say some things are about equal, some are not. The quality of leather in both, to me, is equal. The quality of the build of the wood doors is much better in the Newmar. In the Entegra our doors constantly separated and fell apart. The mirrors in the doors were also to heavy for the doors. Our Newmar has a pantry that the Entegra did not but the Entegra had the pullout counter space that the Entegra did not. We traded Entegra for the Newmar mainly do to electrical problems and we've heard from others they had same problem. We even know a dealership who won't carry them any longer due to electrical problems. But all that is just my two cents.
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11-23-2017, 05:55 AM
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Oh and since you too are in VA there is no Entegra dealer and no one to really work on them
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11-23-2017, 05:55 AM
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You could visit NIRVC near Atlanta and see both Newmar and Entegra since they sell both.
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11-23-2017, 05:56 AM
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You should post a copy of this in the Entegra forum.
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11-23-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fegans02
Oh and since you too are in VA there is no Entegra dealer and no one to really work on them
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Off topic, but that doesn't matter, only Newmar touches mine. My dealer is not competent for anything beyond state inspections
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11-23-2017, 06:00 AM
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You are opening a can of worms with this thread. As a guy that almost bought an Entegra and had 2 factory tours with second tour just to see the Cashmere interior on a new Cornerstone, my opinion is that they are equal in quality (newer coaches). The differences are more from an interior design that varies more in the Entegra from year to year. Newmar interior design seems to change less between model years with the exception of floor patterns. Interior design, color choices, fabric patterns, tiles etc. are all subjective. (Also my point of view was with Cornerstone vs. Essex) What is cool to one person can look like crap to another. Me, I hate oak and would not buy anything oak.
Different model may have different quality features you cannot necessarily see for example on my Essex all my doors are solid and drawers are dovetail construction. When looking at Cornerstone what corners are they cutting to lower cost on the interior of the lower end Entegras, same for Newmar KA ES LA MA, something has to change to justify the lower price points.
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11-23-2017, 06:01 AM
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Know the feeling. Our Newmar is only touched at a designated high line shop by a Newmar factory trained technician. He only works on Newmar. So we drive the 4.5 hours vs going to the Newmar "sales" dealer in Ashland
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11-23-2017, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Coral
You are opening a can of worms with this thread.
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The forums have been boring going into winter, we need something entertaining.
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11-23-2017, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NealC
Off topic, but that doesn't matter, only Newmar touches mine. My dealer is not competent for anything beyond state inspections
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Must be referring to Camping World/Rolling Hills. I have generally been pleased with the work done by RV Service of Virginia in Ashland (for things I cannot do myself). I've been most pleased with work done at the mothership in Junction City, Oregon, but that's only an option when we've been traveling that far West .
Would certainly agree that these complicated beasts are better serviced at the factory if that is a reasonable option.
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11-23-2017, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smlranger
Must be referring to Camping World/Rolling Hills.
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Off topic, only for those in VA to read if you care about the dealer/service:
Yes. I have little experience with their technicians, I'm sure they are great. My salesman (Bob C) was great, thankful for his time with me before he retired but when he left no one followed up. I was coming up on FPU and had to go to them "what do I need to do before I go, i.e. pay???"
Getting through to the service desk is another story and some of the service staff shouldn't have a job if service cared about service. My Honda dealer is a million times better. I call service, it goes to voicemail, "leave a number, we'll call you back" which then goes to a second message "don't leave a number, we won't call you back" - yes, seriously! They never answer their phones so I can't schedule an appointment. One guy is good (Jim), the others I have not had a good experience with. I went there the day I brought my VTDP home for the state inspection and a few things to check. They forgot about me in the waiting room, there 5 hours, staff went to lunch and didn't tell me I was done. Mind you I got in with my new coach 1:30 AM that morning so I was tired. When I left they said email us a picture of one thing and they'll schedule an appointment to fix it. I emailed and never heard back. The gal emailed me for something else, I inquired about the appointment, never heard back. I ended up repairing it myself. They do not care. I will never have anything to do with them unless they are my last resort and I will not give them my future business.
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