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Old 09-07-2016, 12:05 AM   #1
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Looking for Dutch Star VINS 3724 and 4054

I'm trying to determine the front axle situation for the 2017 Dutch Star (3724 and 4054) models we have an interest in. I spoke to someone at Newmar and they said if I have a VIN they can give me the factory weights, but the can't do it by model number. I have no idea why they have that constraint.....

In any case if you happen to see one of these at dealer and can get me the vin or a photo of it that would be helpful. You can put it here or PM me if you want to provide it more discretely.


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Old 09-07-2016, 12:24 AM   #2
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Because there are so many changes that Newmar will make plus the various options there is no way to get a "standard" weight.

Both our Dutch Stars had custom features that no others made had like different cabinet configurations or removed doors and walls, substituted countertops,etc. Our '02 4090 was the only one ever fitted with a storage bay freezer so again, no way to give a standard weight.

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Every option makes a difference in the weights . Newmar weighs each coach at the end of the assembly line, and tracks that weight by the serial number.
I have a complete list ( two pages) of option weights for my 99, and the list includes 1 lb for the telephone wiring.
The DSDP base model in 99 came with a 5,000 lbs CCC, options on my coach brought it down to 3,778.

EDIT: and I see due to my slow typing Mr_D , already posted this info.
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I understand that the options affect the weights. However if the there is lots of spare capacity or no spare capacity it will become pretty evident with a few samples.

Since I was able to get a VIN for a 4381 I got these weights:

Fuel: 1/2 Full
Water: 1/2 Full

Front: 15160
Drive: 15895
Tag: 8115

So as weighed at the factory the coach had 3840 capacity for the front and 5990 for the rear.

Doing some math to add water/fuel and 600 lbs of passengers I calculate that the remaining capacity is about 2800 on the front and 5400 on the rear. Obviously these numbers can vary depending on where I allocate the weight front to rear for fuel/water/passengers. However it still provides a useful estimate of where things stand.

I would like to get a few samples of the specific floorplans that I'm interested in to verify that the new configuration has similar usable axle capacity.
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