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09-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member
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The forum has never been short on opinions and here is your chance to weigh in on my insanity. I am seriously considering moving from my most excellent Mountain Aire to a slightly older Newell.
I have just latched on to the way Newells and Prevosts drive and handle, and I don't like the generally over the top decoration that most converters use on the Prevost.
I am sure that some of you went through evaluation of the bus style coaches before you bought.
I'll say right off that storage is not an issue. I don't use the space in the basement, and I don't have plans to fulltime.
OK, bring it on.
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Richard, Rhonda, Ty, and Alex
1995 Newell, 470HP Detroit Diesel Series 60
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09-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Worth
Posts: 156
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The forum has never been short on opinions and here is your chance to weigh in on my insanity. I am seriously considering moving from my most excellent Mountain Aire to a slightly older Newell.
I have just latched on to the way Newells and Prevosts drive and handle, and I don't like the generally over the top decoration that most converters use on the Prevost.
I am sure that some of you went through evaluation of the bus style coaches before you bought.
I'll say right off that storage is not an issue. I don't use the space in the basement, and I don't have plans to fulltime.
OK, bring it on.
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Richard, Rhonda, Ty, and Alex
1995 Newell, 470HP Detroit Diesel Series 60
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09-07-2007, 12:39 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 25,898
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Go for it.
How's that?
Ya gotta please yourself.
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Adios, Dirk - '84 Real Lite Truck Camper, '86 Wilderness Cimarron TT, previously 4 years as a fulltimer in a '07 DSDP
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09-07-2007, 12:39 PM
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Administrator Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Wow....where to start.
Series 60 Detroit has same torque as the Cummins 600, so no issue there...
Newell has mid door, same as my LADB which I DEARLY LOVE the mid door....no noise up front and MOUNDS more room for the passenger.
Newell doesn't have Comfort Drive, which you could get even with a "leftover" '07....worth the money hands down as an option.
It's funny, but I looked HARD at a Prevost conversion and have done so for many years.
I've said on these forums many many times, my friend and neighbor is a past president of the Marathon Owner's Club and currently an H345 owner, so I've been getting all the comparisons between our coaches.
Funny to say this, but most first time Prevost owners do it for the conversion-ability, but Newmar will do a LOT with an Essex or King Aire as far as converting or conforming to your wishes...
I'll write more, but I've been traveling all day and I'm HUNGRY!!
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2019 Grand Design Solitude 380FL fifth wheel
2017 40' Renegade Verona LE LTS (traded)
2018 F150 King Ranch Crew Cab Diesel
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09-07-2007, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: McKinney, Texas
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
......I'll write more, but I've been traveling all day and I'm HUNGRY!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Me too! What's for dinner????
Leg pull......
Best to ya Bob, - Glenn
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McKinney, Texas
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09-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2006
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The Newells have that cool tag axle steering!! Seriously, I sure have gotten spoiled by the comfort steer. I don't think I will buy another coach without it. We looked at one at the Tampa supershow. We couldn't find a loyout we liked which was nice since I didn't want to spend that much money on something with wheels.
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NKK 16073L
2015 London Aire
2015 GMC Seirra
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09-07-2007, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lake Oklawaha RV Resort(\
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Newell!!! Actually we would buy the floor plan we liked regardless of manufacturer.
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09-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The Newells have that cool tag axle steering!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree. Check out this fact. In reading information on the hot new crossover vehicles, i.e. Saturn Outlook, this 17 foot vehicle has a turning radius of 40 feet. A Newell with the steering tag is a 45 foot coach with a 37 foot turning radius. It is hard to argue against the fact that this is a great advantage in manuvering. Comfort Drive alone is not enough to warrant not getting the upscale coach.
I would not hesitate for a minute on a Newell. On our recent trip to Colorado, there were at least four Newells at any given time in the campground. I spent some time with the owners learning and observing about the Newells. Most owners were not into the "flash and glitter" of some of some other conversion rigs there. They appreciated the four slides and greater living space of the Newell as opposed to the two slides on the average Prevost. One owner had a brand new Newell on his first excursion out and he had owned four Prevosts previously, all Marathons. Had nothing to say bad about them, but wanted to try a Newell and thought he would like it immensely.
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09-08-2007, 02:14 AM
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For what it is worth, I have studied the Newell coaches for quite a few years and will admit that I love their style, amenities, room, layouts, etc. However,I have not "pulled the trigger" because of the negatives I continue to hear.
1. the coaches (most always) have to go back to the factory for service because there is not a very good service network established.
2.the proprietary chassis is difficult to service (other than at the factory) unlike Prevosts that have hundreds of service centers throughout the country.
3.RV dealers (generally) will not take one of the Newells in trade because they "don't know how to price them" (unlike other coaches such as Newmar, Monaco etc) and because of this fact, once you buy a Newell you will have to stay with them- because only Newell will take them in trade. I have been told by many dealers and wholesalers that Newell will not even buy back their own coaches, but will only take them if you trade. Marathon, Liberty and others will not take them in trade as well.
I think if you ask people who deal in the high end market, you will hear these same comments over and over.
I personally would not like to spend that kind of money on a coach that has a very, very, limited market as that will only drive used prices downward. The "depreciation hit" on their new coaches is really bad I am told! Much higher that Marathon, Liberty and even most higher volume production coaches.
Having said all of this, however, as long as you have evaluated the "potential risks" Go For It!- Life is short, enjoy it while you can!
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09-08-2007, 03:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Worth
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Hey guys,
I said an older Newell. I don't have the jack for a new one.
Taxed made some good observations about resale. I hope I am buying a coach that I will keep for an extended time.
Thanks for you insights.
R
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Richard, Rhonda, Ty, and Alex
1995 Newell, 470HP Detroit Diesel Series 60
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09-08-2007, 03:37 AM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
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Location: Newark, DE
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I met a guy with a '96 Newell that had the original Imron paint, and the whole rig looked great.
He is a single fulltimer, and didn't have a whole lot of stuff in the MH.
However, he was 2,000# overweight on the front axle, with no way to reduce that problem.
I would be very cautious on buying an older rig without knowing the wheel weights.
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Adios, Dirk - '84 Real Lite Truck Camper, '86 Wilderness Cimarron TT, previously 4 years as a fulltimer in a '07 DSDP
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09-08-2007, 04:32 AM
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Senior Member
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I don't think anyone buying a Newell is concerned with resale or having to go to the factory for repairs, etc.
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09-08-2007, 05:29 AM
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Administrator Emeritus
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Just to see where this comparison may also lead, would you give us a "ballpark" idea of the price range of the preowned Newell?
There are some '07 Essex and/or MADP's on dealer lots that could very well be had for a GREAT discount.
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2019 Grand Design Solitude 380FL fifth wheel
2017 40' Renegade Verona LE LTS (traded)
2018 F150 King Ranch Crew Cab Diesel
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09-08-2007, 05:47 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 57
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From The Newell Home Page:
Fall Specials
1998-$340,000
1998-$315,000
2000-$392,000
2001-$473,000
2002-$587,000
2002-$592,000
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