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Old 08-20-2018, 05:03 PM   #1
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New Aire Gray tank leak and Sanicon hose leak

I mean, why wouldnít I have more problems?

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Old 08-20-2018, 05:10 PM   #2
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The SaniCon turbo hose is a piece of crap, Iím on my 3rd one in less the a year
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That’s why I was surprised to see on my coach the gray and black tanks on top of the fresh water tank when took down the peg board. Don’t they know it [moderator edit] always runs downhill?
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Ben, I looked at your video carefully. I have never opened up my wet bay so everything I am seeing is brand new for me.

I looks like the fitting (or fitting plate) that is leaking might be the fresh water flush line for the black tank. Looking at your video it would appear the fresh water line is caught under a metal flange at the bottom inboard foreword corner of the tank. The line looks to be under tension under that fitting. In the second image the line continues outboard to the driver's side wet bay panel.

I think may that fitting has failed because the line is under tension and not doubt stressed even more as the coach is bouncing down road jostling the black tank. In any even when you repair that leak I would release that line and maybe secure it somehow so it does not bounce when the coach is in motion putting stress on the fitting.



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That flange is actually a stand-alone pipe bend bracket to assist the pex in the bend at that area. But yeah itís possible thereís too much stress on that connection (the rinse). The screws also spin - yet another example of inappropriate use of self tapping screws. So I canít screw down tighter to try to seal it.

Not sure what that sealant is. Forgot to ask folks here for input on how to reseal this. Any advice? Iíll also ask newmar for advice. It seems like the blank tank leaked, too. I wonder how other tanks are sealed ... this design seems prone to failures.
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The SaniCon turbo hose is a piece of crap, Iím on my 3rd one in less the a year


Stuart I guess that comment had no pun intended. Where are you getting replacement hose? I canít wait to hear what Newmar fix is.
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Ben, With all the issues you've had, you should make a trek to Nappanee. While you are learning a ton about the coach, as are we by watching your videos, I think Newmar needs to straighten this all out for you. You've spend far too much time fixing it at this point.
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Ben, With all the issues you've had, you should make a trek to Nappanee. While you are learning a ton about the coach, as are we by watching your videos, I think Newmar needs to straighten this all out for you. You've spend far too much time fixing it at this point.
Actually learning how to fix things on your own is the most efficient way to keep this bus running when you live a long way from Nappanee. I think Ben has settled on the most efficient course possible when dealing with Newmar's broken field support and service structure. I have elected to do the same thing.
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While I normally agree and could spend weeks outlining the ordeal I went through with my Rhapsody, this coach is under warranty and the factory needs to see this to hopefully help them build a better coach.
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While I normally agree and could spend weeks outlining the ordeal I went through with my Rhapsody, this coach is under warranty and the factory needs to see this to hopefully help them build a better coach.
Being in PA helps. I am 2,300 miles away. A trip to the factory for me would cost nearly $3,000 in fuel and over 2 weeks of travel. Just not an option.
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True, but cinergiís not. Weíre also talking about a coach less than 12 months old. I guess the one problem here is what are build defects and what arose from the accident.
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True, but cinergiís not. Weíre also talking about a coach less than 12 months old. I guess the one problem here is what are build defects and what arose from the accident.
Agree. Entirely possible the leak was caused by the impact of the accident.

The big picture remains that these machines are complicated and prone to failure. Ownership will be much easier if an owner can fix the problems without going to the factory. Clearly Ben is ready to start a class on fixing wet bay problems since he has now fully disassembled those systems. So glad he posted the videos so I can take mine apart when the time comes.
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Clearly Ben is ready to start a class on fixing wet bay problems since he has now fully disassembled those systems. So glad he posted the videos so I can take mine apart when the time comes.
No doubt and his videos will be a godsend for many of us in years to come.
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Ben, With all the issues you've had, you should make a trek to Nappanee. While you are learning a ton about the coach, as are we by watching your videos, I think Newmar needs to straighten this all out for you. You've spend far too much time fixing it at this point.
Unfortunately I'm peppered with the issues and many of them require immediate attention so I can't wait and combine them into a single trip.

What I'm doing, however, is making sure Newmar is aware of what's breaking and documenting it even if neither they nor a service center fixes it. I had zero remaining issues right up until these last three which all popped up in the last week.
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