New Aire Towing

[Johnidaho]

Does anyone have the tow hitch ratings for 2018 New Aire?
All I can find in the literature is the generic 10,000 flat-tow rating.
I need to know both the trailer weight rating, and the vertical tongue weight rating for the 2018. The 2019 brochure specifically includes the ratings for trailer weight (10,000#) and vertical tongue (1,000#) in addition to flat tow (10,000#) ratings. Anyone verified if there is a difference between 2018 and 2019 towing specs?

Thanks.

[Massparanoia]

Tongue weight is calculated as 10% of trailer weight. So a 10k trailer = 1k tongue. If in doubt, I'd just call Newmar customer service.

[willipaul]

a 37' DS, per newmars website, advertises a 10K flat tow rating, but only a 5K weight bearing rating, with 500lbs max tongue weight..

i would be surprised if the NA could out weight bearing tow a DS.....

but i've been surprised before....

i'd call your dealer, FL, and newmar...see what they all tell you....

[Newaire1]

My 2018 New Aire has a 38,000lb gross and 48,000 lb combined gross rating and the sticker on my hitch states 10,000 lbs and 1000 tongue weight with 12,000 flat tow max limit. So I assume 10,000 is a safe bet. But I do have a 2019 Chassis under the 2018 house. Maybe it changed but the brochure for 2019 online also said 10,000 and 1000 for trailer and toad.

[Newaire1]

Originally Posted by willipaul

a 37' DS, per newmars website, advertises a 10K flat tow rating, but only a 5K weight bearing rating, with 500lbs max tongue weight..

i would be surprised if the NA could out weight bearing tow a DS.....

but i've been surprised before....

i'd call your dealer, FL, and newmar...see what they all tell you....

Here is Freightliner spec for New Aire

[Newaire1]

Photo not loading? Here is link showing New Aire and Dutch Star, the New Aire specs are much higher then Dutch Star including top of the line ZF IFS with 60 degree wheel cut. It’s surprising how heavy duty the little New Aire is. Looking at the Dutch Star Gross Combined it is not rated to tow 10,000 flat. It has 5k combined so it’s a typo that it can tow 10k. Specs are from Freightliner and they say 5k.

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...r-New-Aire.pdf

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...Dutch-Star.pdf

[Johnidaho]

Thanks, everyone, for the input. My confusion comes from limited specs on the 2018 NA (only “10,000 Flat” and +10,000# for GCWR), specs on 2019 NA, no markings on my hitch, Freigliner saying that Newmar installs their own hitches, and my most recent inquiry to Newmar which was “i’m Not sure”.
I’m not concerned flat towing the Wrangler, but want some comfort towing a 6,000# trailer with 650# tongue weight.
Will make another call to Newmar in hopes os embody there has an answer.

[Dutch Star Don]

"Newaire1".....Yeah....that's a misprint on the Dutch Star. The DS is rated at GVWR of 49K and GWCR of 64K, for a 15000 pound tow rating. The 40 and up Dutch Star's have had 15K rating for many years.

[willipaul]

Originally Posted by Newaire1

Photo not loading? Here is link showing New Aire and Dutch Star, the New Aire specs are much higher then Dutch Star including top of the line ZF IFS with 60 degree wheel cut. It’s surprising how heavy duty the little New Aire is. Looking at the Dutch Star Gross Combined it is not rated to tow 10,000 flat. It has 5k combined so it’s a typo that it can tow 10k. Specs are from Freightliner and they say 5k.

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...r-New-Aire.pdf

https://cdn.fccchq.com/specsheets/5b...Dutch-Star.pdf

well, why does the spec sheet on the new aire say 55 degree wheel cut ? and the DS sheet as well ?

so much conflicting information between the different websites and different spec sheets...it's nuts...there is no consistency, it seems...

[Steele]

Wheel cut is a FL/ SP sales gimmick. The chassis’ have differences but the house ie Newmar set the cut limit with the limits the coach causes.

[plane]

Originally Posted by willipaul

well, why does the spec sheet on the new aire say 55 degree wheel cut ? and the DS sheet as well ?

so much conflicting information between the different websites and different spec sheets...it's nuts...there is no consistency, it seems...

On my 2018 NA the wheel cut is 60 degrees which was changed to 55 degree in 2019. I assume fear on turning to sharp and getting into towed

[Sky_Boss]

Originally Posted by plane

On my 2018 NA the wheel cut is 60 degrees which was changed to 55 degree in 2019. I assume fear on turning to sharp and getting into towed

I would think the concern is more related to rim & wheel size. They will want to make sure that there is not contact between rims or tires with frame or wheel well.

Those are factors they should control. They can't control what tow set up owners put on the coach. As an example, I had to use an extension and the longer Blue Ox Avail tow bar to make sure my bicycle rack didn't hit the toad.

[Dutch Star Don]

You have to be careful when you get specs from Freightliner or Spartan. They both spec a chassis, as their standard configuration and then Newmar comes along and specs some different for a particular coach. Typically, the most accurate will Newmar, but as all manufacturers state.....things are subject to change.

[Johnidaho]

Mystery solved!!

Second round of calls were made to Newmar and Freightliner, and although Craig at Newmar was trying his best by having me hold while he checked with several departments at Newmar and a call to Freightliner, still a mystery.

However, I went back out to look the hitch over in person again. No load/rating label or markings on the top or rear of the hitch, but when I climbed down underneath, found the label on the BACK side of the hitch.

So at least for MY 2018 New Aire (3343), the towing capacity, as stated on my hitch, is 10,000# flat towing, 10,000# trailer weight, and 1,000# tongue wt.
Since chassis combined weight rating is 10,000# more than the GVWR, looks like towing a trailer under 10,000# is fine (will be REALLY slow up long grades, but at least will be legal and within weight limits!).