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Old 04-02-2007, 05:04 PM   #43
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The lack of a spotter certainly wasn't the problem as she dumped the driverside rear. Face it, she dosn't see as good as she apparently looks.

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Bob, The commercial, or any license is not necessarily needed on private property, however if the insurance knew she was unqualified and tell people that were, or may be, that she had to park it as an insurance requirement??? It is wrong and should not happen again. Having unqualified people operating equipment in an enviroment that is populated heavier than normal is exposure to far too much liability. Fortunitely it was only the vehicle involved.

And yes, she and anyone else that insists they must drive your vehicle due to insurance reasons, even on private property, better have a professional license.

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Old 04-02-2007, 05:20 PM   #45
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And yes, she and anyone else that insists they must drive your vehicle due to insurance reasons, even on private property, better have a professional license. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Peter, I respect your opinion but regrettably I think it's just not the norm at most dealerships...
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:40 PM   #46
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You are quite right, Bob. However I've never been ask to turn over my rig for parking at any other dealship. Oh, of course make that any dealership as I wasn't there. But I can tell you there is no way I would.
Better keep her in a golf cart, preferably with low charge batteries.

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Old 04-03-2007, 01:59 AM   #47
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Yeh, It all starts in a golf cart. It's all fun until somebody loses an eye. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's right because then it becomes a sport.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I've never been ask to turn over my rig for parking at any other dealship </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hi Peter! In defense of North Trail, their parking lots are way too tight. Way too many coaches for the lot size. I am sure they wished they were twice the size. When we went for the fan upgrade we could barely pull in there. They probably want their own people moving the coaches versus having a stranger come ripping thru the lots. Hey Bob, sorry we got a little carried away. Paul
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When I arrived for service at North Trail, they came out and directed me back to the area behind the service/parts facility and SPOTTED me as I backed into one of those spaces...

EVEN with her dumping the drivers side duals, there reeks the question of why she didn't have someone spotting her.
If I were Alan Erp I would INSIST on this as a policy with NO exceptions, especially in that crazy lot at North Trail...


These darn ACCIDENTS are PREVENTABLE!!
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I should have been spotting her since I own the MH. I was in the MH watching the front since she was pulling so close to other MH's on the lot. As I mentioned in my previous posting, Scott and the Lot Coordinator jumped into action and corrected the situation like real pro's. I think the sales lady's name was Diane. She vanished after she put it in the ditch.
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Hindsight is 20/20 Jerry and I'm sorry your rig had to be the one that was involved...

My only concern is that North Trail (and others) learn from this incident.

While it's certainly a pain to accomplish, given the possibility for injury,the speed that things "go wrong" and the possibility for big dollar damage, I would think ANYTIME a coach is placed in reverse there should be a spotter...
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She put it in the ditch while driving forward, not in reverse. She turned left into the lot off of the main driveway and cut the corner too tight. Since she was driving forward, I did not think to spot her from the back, I was spotting the front. I was hoping to drive the new Essex and compare to my 2006 MADP.

By the way, I read that Dirk's door awning fell off....my awining was ready to fall off as well and North Trail reinstalled it. One of the 2 screws broke.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">She turned left into the lot off of the main driveway and cut the corner too tight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sheesh....a whole new scenario.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">By the way, I read that Dirk's door awning fell off....my awining was ready to fall off as well and North Trail reinstalled it. One of the 2 screws broke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The awning assembly has 4 holes for screws.

Mine was attached only by two machine screws also. Obviously insufficient, and the mounting plate that the awning is screwed to is plastic.

Two machine screws into plastic is clearly insufficient.

BTW, is it a coincidence that my awning color is "toast"? The awning sure is.
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Through advice from this forum I had Newmar check all the screws on the coach on all the awnings. There was a post on this back in October/November I believe. I think the screws were being overtightened in the factory.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Since she was driving forward </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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