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Old 05-24-2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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Newmar Installed Solar

Just curious...

Why do so few Newmar owners who special order their MH not order the Newmar Solar package?

There are so many threads on you all going to so much trouble to get all the proper parts etc to install solar. Why not let Newmar do it? And, at least you'll have the full factory support after.

DH found a show called Extreme RV and the first episode in all the DVR tapings was of Newmar! They showed how a King Aire was put together at the factory and the order included "$5000.00 of solar that the customer requested as a part of his custom package".

This show was taped in 2013 if I remember correctly.

However, this got me wondering...

Everyone seems to order the solar prep, why not let them put some panels up to start the process?
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Just curious...

Why do so few Newmar owners who special order their MH not order the Newmar Satellite package?

There are so many threads on you all going to so much trouble to get all the proper parts etc to install solar. Why not let Newmar do it? And, at least you'll have the full factory support after.

DH found a show called Extreme RV and the first episode in all the DVR tapings was of Newmar! They showed how a King Aire was put together at the factory and the order included "$5000.00 of solar that the customer requested as a part of his custom package".

This show was taped in 2013 if I remember correctly.

However, this got me wondering...

Everyone seems to order the solar prep, why not let them put some panels up to start the process?
I'm a bit confused. Are you asking about "satellite" prep or "solar" prep? Or, both? You seem to start out asking about one and then moving to the other.

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Factory solar is typically overpriced and underpowered for dry camping. If intended for battery maintenance, then typically just overpriced.

Not am I fan of factory prep for solar either. Typically not of the desired wire size, wire routing, or number of desired pairs.

IMHO. YMMV.
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For our Ventana, the only solar panels available where the flexible panels at only 100 watts each. Glued to the roof, a pain to remove, and they were rated as terrible.

Did the solar prep option after talking with my 3rd party solar installer, who said for the system size we were going to, the solar prep was fine, and made it easier for him to install rather than HIM have to drill holes and run wires.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:57 PM   #5
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Oops!

Solar prep!

The Extreme RV episode showed a King Aire being built with a Solar package and the way it was worded on 5he show was it was an option and then was $5000.

Can I fix my post?
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:59 PM   #6
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If ordering a coach you can have two solar preps installed.
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I also looked at the solar panel option when buying my Ventana but found (with the help of some fellow IRV2ers) that you are better off buying better panels (not the stick-on) for less money. Especially if you do this yourself. I learned from others on the boards (NealC and C.Martin) as we installed our own systems of 1,440 Watts or more for about what Newmar wanted to charge for less than 1/3 of the wattage (400).

And the solar pre-wire is still a good way to go (my opinion) as running the wire after the unit is built would not be easy. It made my install much easier.

Hope this helps.
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You can look in the new Newmar search engine and come up with this information.
Search information found here.
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We got the 400-watt factory solar option. (I havenít posted this yet, because everyone ridicules this so.) I had been looking at adding solar to our last coach for quite some time, even got a (really high) price. In the end I couldnt get comfortable doing it myself, and couldnít find a reasonably-priced qualified installer.

Maybe the factory set-up is not the best value, but it seems to work and makes a big difference keeping the coach batteries charged. Iím happy Newmar is on the hook for the entire system, including warranty. After much looking and worrying, it was worth it to me for the turn-key nature of it.

When youíre spending this kind of money on a coach, including the cost of many other factory options, Iím happy with the trade-off.
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I also ordered the factory 4 panel 400 watt solar option. I got a 3 panel 300 watt result. Seems there was an Engineering change order for space reasons in January 2018 when you have Swm satellite. I ordered in Nov. 2017. I was never told. Note all the 2019 order listing shows 300 watt solar offered only. My local dealer is adding the extra 100 watt panel.

I also wanted enough wattage to keep even with all the storage background items being on. I don’t boondocks much and should be able to run generator every 3rd day.
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Thank you all for the reply's.

We won't put any solar on the CS; when we do move up to a DP we do want the ability to boondock with some solar.

I've read threads that C.Martin and NealC put up and those are very impressive.

I don't know if DH and I have the ability to install solar ourselves. We're handy but I'm not sure we're that good. If we had to pay someone to install our thinking would be "why not the manufacturer"? You've all given us some stuff to think about, question and price out.

I've also looked at the blog of posters Wheelingit and was very impressed with the installer they used.

After seeing it on the show it just got me wondering why it isn't really talked about more here except as after market. If it's quality, I can understand the push to use outside companies.

I appreciate the feedback!
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You have to go into the Solar threads of DS Don's in his MOD & Repair section at the near bottom of QT's # 3 for detailed wiring and locations you will find for the DSDP coach and similar coach's.
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I also ordered the factory 4 panel 400 watt solar option. I got a 3 panel 300 watt result.
This subject has been covered extensively. The Newmar factory option for solar is over priced and low performance compared to after market solutions. Low performance means the panels offered by Newmar have a low energy yield per square foot of coverage. Simply put, this option is sub par and out of character for the relatively high end appointments of the NA.
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This subject has been covered extensively. The Newmar factory option for solar is over priced and low performance compared to after market solutions. Low performance means the panels offered by Newmar have a low energy yield per square foot of coverage. Simply put, this option is sub par and out of character for the relatively high end appointments of the NA.
That's my take away...which is too bad and seemingly out of character (overall) for Newmar.

We will research other options and installers.
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