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10-15-2017, 06:25 PM
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Buly, OverDo, Thanks for the suggestions. That solved the problem. Loosening the bolts alone didn't help. When I moved the slide out a bit, the motor could be moved just enough to start the bolts and spin them down without the ratchet.
I tried some 1" bolts but they bottomed out in the motor threads so had to use the original 3/4" ones.
Doing the rest of them tomorrow. Looks like I need to move the cord reel and front batteries out of the way to get in there.
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10-15-2017, 07:05 PM
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#422
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Location: Bella Vista, Arkansas
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I have the Ventana LE 4037 and will the galley slide have these motors also? I have looked several times, but I have not found the same type of motor that the FWS has.
Also will it be easier to check the bolts with the slide in or out?
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2023 Chevrolet 2500HD LT 4X4
2024 Grand Design Reflection 296RDTS
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10-15-2017, 09:24 PM
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I have the Ventana LE 4037 and will the galley slide have these motors also?
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On our 2014 unit, the kitchen slide motor can be accessed from the first basement compartment behind the front wheel.
From that bay, looking up and to the left, following along the drive shaft, the bracket/motor assembly is mounted between the first and second bay. Its hard to miss.
Your 2017 may have a different kind of actuator??
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2020 Winnebago View 24D/2014 Newmar Ventana 4037
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10-16-2017, 05:47 AM
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Location: Waynesboro MS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reubenray
I have the Ventana LE 4037 and will the galley slide have these motors also? I have looked several times, but I have not found the same type of motor that the FWS has.
Also will it be easier to check the bolts with the slide in or out?
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Raymond, on mine there are black plastic covers where the motors are located. I could barely get my hand into the space. I did not remove the bolts because there was not enough room to maneuver.
I did tighten them up and will do so on a regular basis.
Yours will probably be the same.
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2017 Ventanna LE 4037, 2014 F-150 4 door, 2013 Jeep Wrangler unlimited ( Sandy’s Rock hounding rig.)
9 year Newmar Hoots looking for a roost
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10-16-2017, 06:30 AM
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#425
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Originally Posted by Bill Hunt
Raymond, on mine there are black plastic covers where the motors are located. I could barely get my hand into the space. I did not remove the bolts because there was not enough room to maneuver.
I did tighten them up and will do so on a regular basis.
Yours will probably be the same.
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Thanks Bill - I will look for the black plastic covers. I am having a loud pop on that slide when I bring it in. It sounds like the rear lock banging, but I want to make sure.
We are home now so I can check it all out better.
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2023 Chevrolet 2500HD LT 4X4
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10-18-2017, 04:01 PM
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#426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reubenray
Thanks Bill - I will look for the black plastic covers. I am having a loud pop on that slide when I bring it in. It sounds like the rear lock banging, but I want to make sure.
We are home now so I can check it all out better.
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Check the Torque on the rod nut. Sounds like it is slipping.
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10-27-2017, 04:21 PM
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Well just had problem with the drivers kitchen slide on 2009 Ventana 4386. Wish I would have found this thread earlier but I'm sure this started with loose mounting bolts on the motor because 2 bolts are loose and 1 "pot metal" mount is broken on the motor. Now slide is stuck out. When wife pushes retract button motor whines but nothing moves. I am assuming the gears inside the motor/transmission are stripped. If that is the case shouldn't we be able to push the slide in manually as there is nothing left in the motor to keep the rack and pinion shaft from turning? In this case I don't see the need for loosening the transtorque bushings, right? Also, I've read it can take at least 4 people to manually push the slide in. We tilted motorhome down toward the passenger side. We then had 3 people pushing on the drivers side slide and it didn't move an inch. What are we doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
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10-27-2017, 04:45 PM
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I’m not sure, but I think you can turn the shaft manually with a pipe wrench? It may take some work, but it can be done.
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10-27-2017, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by VP Chianese
Check the Torque on the rod nut. Sounds like it is slipping.
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I had my wife bring the slide in while I checked for the banging. It is the real slide lock. I can make the same sound by physically moving it. Why it is banging I don't know.
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10-27-2017, 09:09 PM
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If your talking about the manual slide lock remove it and with a heavy hammer hit the two edges either side of ball bearing and it will tighten the holding clamp of ball bearing.
DO not go crazy you just need to tap the clamp edge, you over do it you will have to spred the clamp.
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10-28-2017, 04:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by "007"
If your talking about the manual slide lock remove it and with a heavy hammer hit the two edges either side of ball bearing and it will tighten the holding clamp of ball bearing.
DO not go crazy you just need to tap the clamp edge, you over do it you will have to spred the clamp.
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Yes I am talking about the manual slide lock, but I can't get to it. It is against a wall with just enough room for me to reach around to it. Now that I know what it is it won't bother me as much when it bangs.
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10-28-2017, 05:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buly
I’m not sure, but I think you can turn the shaft manually with a pipe wrench? It may take some work, but it can be done. Attachment 181226
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After freeing the Trans-torque Bushing I was able to easily turn the shaft using Vice Grips, there is not much room in there to work with a pipe wrench. Very small turns of the shaft will move the slide in or out significantly. The hardest part of the job was loosening the bushing, a 24" breaker bar on the crow foot wrench worked well.
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10-28-2017, 08:25 AM
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#433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jprandkpr
Well just had problem with the drivers kitchen slide on 2009 Ventana 4386. Wish I would have found this thread earlier but I'm sure this started with loose mounting bolts on the motor because 2 bolts are loose and 1 "pot metal" mount is broken on the motor. Now slide is stuck out. When wife pushes retract button motor whines but nothing moves. I am assuming the gears inside the motor/transmission are stripped. If that is the case shouldn't we be able to push the slide in manually as there is nothing left in the motor to keep the rack and pinion shaft from turning? In this case I don't see the need for loosening the transtorque bushings, right? Also, I've read it can take at least 4 people to manually push the slide in. We tilted motorhome down toward the passenger side. We then had 3 people pushing on the drivers side slide and it didn't move an inch. What are we doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
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Before you do anything else set the motor home on level ground. Then if you have airbags start the engine and let it level itself up.
Now try to tighten the other loose bolts on the slide motor. It may be jammed because it is cocked.
If that doesn't work call Newmar Customer Service or the Technicians number that is on your drivers side front window. Those folks have dealt with this many times and will be able to walk you through getting it in.
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10-29-2017, 01:08 PM
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#434
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Electric slides
We found the same issue on our '07 Essex. Had to help the living room street side slide back in. On inspection, all four bolts were broken! Three completely out and the fourth hanging by a thread!
CHECK YOUR BOLTS! Thats a $850.00 item from Newmar.
The bedroom and living room curbside are easy to locate and fix, however the bedroom curbside is a whole other story! Inner finder (above wheel) has to come completely out, three pieces, gear and motor are barely accessible above and to the inside of the aft piece. I raised the jack to its highest position but it was still difficult. The ideal process would be to remove the tag wheel on curb side.
All bolts were loose on these three but none broken out.
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