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Old 02-22-2018, 07:28 AM   #519
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SLS, Looking forward to hearing the results and a materials list.
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:07 AM   #520
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Not raining on anyone's parade just providing another data point... I started this post in June 2016, I had our Coach's bolts replaced and safety wired in October of 2016... Since then we have driven the Coach 18,386 miles and deployed the slide outs 208 times... All the bolts are still tight!
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What did you replace your bolts with?
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How I Fixed my Electric Slide - New Thread

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I started new thread with my fix, pictures, parts, and instructions.

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Old 02-22-2018, 08:21 PM   #523
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What did you replace your bolts with?


Brooks Wagner replaced the bolts with aircraft grade, drilled head bolts and then safety wired with 0.047 wire.
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:13 AM   #524
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Brooks Wagner replaced the bolts with aircraft grade, drilled head bolts and then safety wired with 0.047 wire.
Funny how an old simple proven method works. Yet we try to reinvent the wheel.

To the best of my knowledge my former 2015 DS 4369 has the wire ties done exactly the same way and there has been no problems for 8 k miles.
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Brooks Wagner replaced the bolts with aircraft grade, drilled head bolts and then safety wired with 0.047 wire.
I replaced all the bolts with drilled head bolts and installed with locktite AND safety wire. On my last trip to the dealer for recall items service, they removed all the safety wire, and reinstalled with blue locktite only.
BTW, the mechanic never used a torque wrench.
Now I have to re-do his work and re wre the bolts...
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I replaced all the bolts with drilled head bolts and installed with locktite AND safety wire. On my last trip to the dealer for recall items service, they removed all the safety wire, and reinstalled with blue locktite only.
BTW, the mechanic never used a torque wrench.
Now I have to re-do his work and re wre the bolts...
That Dealer and I would have had a talk! The bolts are a TSB not a recall!
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Brooks Wagner replaced the bolts with aircraft grade, drilled head bolts and then safety wired with 0.047 wire.


.047" wire is pretty stiff wire. .032 is plenty strong and a little more flexible. I've gone thru dozens of cans of safety wire since my first safety on a Huey in '75. Never had one fail. Everyone can try and come up with a new and better solution but safety wire is tried and probeb
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2017 4369 - does this issue of loose bolts apply to a newer coach? Looks like this was well known in 2016 before our coach was built.
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2017 4369 - does this issue of loose bolts apply to a newer coach? Looks like this was well known in 2016 before our coach was built.
It seems to have been fixed sometime in 2016. Not early production but at least in late.

I have asked the question as to if any 2017 have had the problem but there were no reply's. So it seems to have been done.

I believe that the Locktite, if done at production is probably a good enough fix. I would have preferred they, Newmar went to aircraft bolts and wire ties right in production. But that fell on deaf ears. One reason I was told was they didn't think that service centers would do any repairs and re wire the bolts leading to more problems where there is a better chance that they would use the Loctite.

So if you are out there with a 2017, put a wrench on a couple and tug a bit toward tighten. Not hard just a bit. If you pull too hard and break the Loctite bond that will defeat the purpose. If they are not holding they will be loose to the pull and turn a 1/4 turn or something.

I'll try my 2016 this week but we only have 1,200 miles and the slides haven't been in and out but a dozen or so times so not sure if that is a good test.
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Also get a white sharpie paint marker and add witness marks across bolt head and bracket.
A quick visual confirms movement or not
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It seems to have been fixed sometime in 2016. Not early production but at least in late.

I have asked the question as to if any 2017 have had the problem but there were no reply's. So it seems to have been done.

I believe that the Locktite, if done at production is probably a good enough fix. I would have preferred they, Newmar went to aircraft bolts and wire ties right in production. But that fell on deaf ears. One reason I was told was they didn't think that service centers would do any repairs and re wire the bolts leading to more problems where there is a better chance that they would use the Loctite.

So if you are out there with a 2017, put a wrench on a couple and tug a bit toward tighten. Not hard just a bit. If you pull too hard and break the Loctite bond that will defeat the purpose. If they are not holding they will be loose to the pull and turn a 1/4 turn or something.

I'll try my 2016 this week but we only have 1,200 miles and the slides haven't been in and out but a dozen or so times so not sure if that is a good test.
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See post 496 regarding 2017:

When I purchased my 2017 DS4018 I was advised by techs at the dealer that my coach had no recalls or service bulletin concerning the slide motor bolts so not to worry. So I figured that with a September 2016 build date I was ok.
Today, with a bit of time on my hands, I accessed my two motors on the bedroom and kitchen slides. Of the eight bolts two were tight, two needed a 1/4 turn, two needed a 1/4 to 1/2 turn and two needed over 1/2 turn. Not what I was expecting.
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Jerry,

Did the bolts looked like they were loctited(if that is a word)?
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