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11-11-2018, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by W4KMA
How much fuel do these burn? Pounds per hour, etc.?
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Their ad states 58000 btu. A gallon of propane has 91000 btu, so about 1 1/2 hr per gallon. Not very efficient
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11-11-2018, 10:41 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Washington State or Western Montana, depending on the season.
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Originally Posted by Dav L
When I get around to it, I'll look for a way to store a propane tank in a vented area. Possibly in the front generator bay area...
If the tank vents in a baggage container, and you smell it inside, the next light or relay click can be a kaboom.
Granted a tank venting is rare. But there is a definite reason that no factory propane tank is in a sealed box. Certainly because there are always some leaks when filling.
Quick Google: https://stainfastmarine.com/stainles...-installation/
This summer I was running my 60 foot man lift (gas / propane dual fuel) to clean the house windows and noticed one of the recently filled propane tanks (a week or so earlier) was venting significantly. Got me a little nervous to get down from height, as the engine was running (on gas) a couple feet above from the venting tank. I got down, shut the engine off and ran away for an hour till it was all done. Still don't know why it vented. I suspect a bad valve...but realized that it does happen in the real world. That tank hasn't been on the machine since. Needs a reinspection for sure.
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This is exactly my concern...and, will be my approach; finding a vented space in which I can carry a 2.5 gallon portable tank.
TJ
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11-12-2018, 07:22 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,412
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Thank you Neal! I bought the brass caps for the two 1 lb cylinders I carry for my grill. Doesn't sound like a 1 lb cylinder would last long on the firepit. As much as I want the propane firepit, I just can't see putting a 2.5 gal tank in my basement. Front area storage would be nice, but sounds like a bomb also if you hit something.
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2017 Dutch Star 4018, 2021 Jeep Wrangler
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11-12-2018, 07:39 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Forest City, FL
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We have the same fire pit & carry a 20 LB portable tank in our middle basement bay. Have traveled 20,000+ miles with no issues. We do have the same ring as Neal showed around tank. We love the fire pit as a lot of campgrounds seem to not allow wood fires & it’s also easier not having to put out hot fire at night.
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2017 Dutch Star 4310 (bunks)
2018 Ford Explorer Platinum
Previous: 2010 Tiffin Allegro Red 38QBA
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11-12-2018, 07:50 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Byhalia, MS
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptw
Thank you Neal! I bought the brass caps for the two 1 lb cylinders I carry for my grill. Doesn't sound like a 1 lb cylinder would last long on the firepit. As much as I want the propane firepit, I just can't see putting a 2.5 gal tank in my basement. Front area storage would be nice, but sounds like a bomb also if you hit something.
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For whatever reason, I didn't have much luck using the 1 lb cylinders with my firepit. It just didn't work. I've been taking my 20# tank with us for the firepit and it works out just fine. I do plan on running an on-board line from the propane tank to the right side of the coach where I can connect for my Q1200 or the firepit. I just haven't done it yet.
jt
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11-12-2018, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Salinas, California
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Can you use the low pressure port on the RVs propane?
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11-12-2018, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I think it can be done either way. If using low pressure then you don’t use a regulator on the device.
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11-12-2018, 09:29 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: State College, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptw
Any thoughts on storage of the propane? The only thing keeping me from buying one.
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Going to an all electric coach and liking our Firepit and Grill I purchased 2 4lbs tanks so I always have a replacement on hand. Both fit nicely in compartment on drivers side rear. Since the Ventana has a rear radiator, not sure what to do for DS and up
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2019 Ventana 4037 Spartan, 2018 JL Wrangler Sahara
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11-15-2018, 06:35 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Outland firebowl to MH propane tank
Has anyone safely and successfully hooked this to your onboard propane tank? Only very sketchy modifications videos come up when trying to search the topic.
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11-15-2018, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Metamora, MI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple H
Has anyone safely and successfully hooked this to your onboard propane tank? Only very sketchy modifications videos come up when trying to search the topic.
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There are hose kits for the purpose. They typically are plumbed like:
Tank > shutoff valve > existing low pressure regulator > New T > New long flexible hose > shut off valve > quick connect > fire pit / or stove / or grill (or all)
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11-16-2018, 05:29 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Ft. Myers, Fl.
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I plumbed a line into our Baystar from the onboard tank to the curbside for connection to a grill or fire pit,...just before I traded the coach in.
Camping World had the kit.
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11-16-2018, 07:47 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: State College, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dav L
There are hose kits for the purpose. They typically are plumbed like:
Tank > shutoff valve > existing low pressure regulator > New T > New long flexible hose > shut off valve > quick connect > fire pit / or stove / or grill (or all)
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When we ordered our Canyon Star we had a quick connect put on the door side, mostly for the grill. It was done just like Dav L's
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11-16-2018, 07:52 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Byhalia, MS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer
When we ordered our Canyon Star we had a quick connect put on the door side, mostly for the grill. It was done just like Dav L's
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So - it was a low pressure line to the door side, and you hooked the grill to it without a regulator?
jt
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11-17-2018, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Metamora, MI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyjt
So - it was a low pressure line to the door side, and you hooked the grill to it without a regulator?
jt
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Both are possible.
Here is a YouTube that gives some tutorial on the tank side of the install. This is a high pressure side. The advantage here is you can also use the new T to feed propane INTO the system (external tank for extended stay).
Just know that you have to have a regulator (one) inbetween the tank and the burning device.
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