RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Newmar Owner's Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:45 AM   #1
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Purchasing a used Newmar gas coach advice

Hi,

I am on the market for a 5-7 year old Newmar gas coach. I have a good relationship with a Newmar dealer 6 miles from me who I purchased my 2005 Damon Daybreak from 18 months ago.

I would really like to purchase thorough my existing dealer as get great service from them and as mentioned they are 6 miles from my house, they have often fitted me in that day or next business day for urgent repairs and have not charged me for quick non warranty repairs/adjustments.

My options are to purchase from another dealer or individual or wait to see what my local dealer gets on on a trade.

My local dealer did say they could service a Newmar not purchased from them but priority goes to folk who purchased from them.


Any thoughts?
__________________

__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-29-2017, 10:54 AM   #2
Community Moderator
 
"007"'s Avatar


 
Nor'easters Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 28,889
There are Newmars in the Classifieds above and plenty of used Newmars still going strong as you can see in QT's # 3 old coach section.
Workhorse had a good chassis 2003 -10 for gas coach Chev 8.1 and Allison trans, use to drive mine in cruise all the time.
Interior of mine in QT's 1 & 2 near end of link.
This link will get you brochures, owners guides for years your interested in.
Good luck in your search.
__________________

__________________
98KSCA, 99MACA, 03 KSCA-3740- 8.1 Chev-- ALLISON Trans
VISIT the NEWMAR QUICK TIPS & EASYMODS 1 & 2
QUICK TIPS # 3
RV SYSTEMS & APPLIANCES & RECALLS --- TECH INFORMATION
"007" is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 12:16 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 281
You might be more patient than I am I don't think I could personally wait long enough to see if that dealer gets the unit you want. Depending on the volume they do and luck, that could be quite a while. It does sound like they are a good dealer and will take care of you if you find one you like elsewhere.
__________________
Newmar, Baystar 3401 (Lucille) towing 2008 Wrangler 6 speed with Ready Brute Elite bar attached to Blue Ox Baseplate
Formerly 2005 Winnebago Minnie 31C
MikeD1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 12:35 PM   #4
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by 007";3921880]There are Newmars in the [B][URL="http://www.irv2.com/rvclassifieds/
Classifieds[/URL][/B] above and plenty of used Newmars still going strong as you can see in QT's # 3 old coach section.
Workhorse had a good chassis 2003 -10 for gas coach Chev 8.1 and Allison trans, use to drive mine in cruise all the time.
Interior of mine in QT's 1 & 2 near end of link.
This link will get you brochures, owners guides for years your interested in.
Good luck in your search.
Thanks very much 007.

Will check those out.
__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 12:37 PM   #5
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD1 View Post
You might be more patient than I am I don't think I could personally wait long enough to see if that dealer gets the unit you want. Depending on the volume they do and luck, that could be quite a while. It does sound like they are a good dealer and will take care of you if you find one you like elsewhere.
We are in Michigan so we won't be using the coach until April so have some breathing space.

Would love to be be able to just order a new one but can not afford to do so.
__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 02:37 PM   #6
Member
 
Rudy5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Albuquerque NM
Posts: 32
We bought a 08 Bay Star 2901 from a private seller one year ago. We looked at new entry level wasn’t what we wanted. I like you wanted a 5-7 year old coach. Just to see what a 08 looked like we looked at the Newmar. It was just what we wanted very clean ready to roll.

Made a deal we very happy with our coach. Our Newmar is head and shoulders above anything we look at.
__________________
John & Diane
2008 Bay Star 2901
2003 Jeep Liberty
Rudy5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 05:21 PM   #7
Community Moderator
 
"007"'s Avatar


 
Nor'easters Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 28,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stMH View Post
We are in Michigan so we won't be using the coach until April so have some breathing space.

Would love to be be able to just order a new one but can not afford to do so.
MID-WAY is the top Newmar dealer in your area should check them out a good dealer to deal with for everything.
__________________
98KSCA, 99MACA, 03 KSCA-3740- 8.1 Chev-- ALLISON Trans
VISIT the NEWMAR QUICK TIPS & EASYMODS 1 & 2
QUICK TIPS # 3
RV SYSTEMS & APPLIANCES & RECALLS --- TECH INFORMATION
"007" is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 07:13 PM   #8
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by 007";3922407][B][URL="http://www.midwayrv.com/
MID-WAY[/URL][/B] is the top Newmar dealer in your area should check them out a good dealer to deal with for everything.
Thanks 007, I have looked at them.

They are about 2 hours from me which is doable.
__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 07:54 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
deaton's Avatar


 
Monaco Owners Club
Newmar Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Posts: 1,046
Good dealers in this industry are scarcer than hens teeth. If you are confident in the one close by, and you’re not in too big a hurry, you can probably make this work out. Maybe search for a private seller and then run the sale thru your dealer. In that way, you can preserve the sales tax deduction on your trade against the cost of the new coach (if that’s the way it’s done in MI - works in TX), the dealer makes a few bucks and everybody’s happy.
__________________
Dan & Linda
FMCA 399045 NKK 22240
2017 Dutch Star 4018 - Spartan K2
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4
deaton is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 07:56 PM   #10
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by deaton View Post
Good dealers in this industry are scarcer than hens teeth. If you are confident in the one close by, and you’re not in too big a hurry, you can probably make this work out. Maybe search for a private seller and then run the sale thru your dealer. In that way, you can preserve the sales tax deduction on your trade against the cost of the new coach (if that’s the way it’s done in MI - works in TX), the dealer makes a few bucks and everybody’s happy.
That's very true about dealers.

Can you elaborate more on buying private bit running through the dealer?
__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2017, 05:14 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
deaton's Avatar


 
Monaco Owners Club
Newmar Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Posts: 1,046
Purchasing a used Newmar gas coach advice

In Texas, and many other states, the sales tax is figured on the difference between the agreed cash price for the new coach and the value allowed for your trade.

Our ST is 6.25% on vehicles.

So $200k new coach less $100k trade leaves $100k and tax bill of $6,250 from the governor.

If you sell your coach outright, then you have no trade to offset the purchase and your tax bill, in this example, doubles. Of course, theoretically, you make more money selling your “trade” outright and, to the extent that might be true, you claw back some or all of the “loss” on the sales tax.

So some folks make their deal to buy a used coach from a private party and then take the deal to a cooperating dealer. He buys the used coach and sells it to you at the agreed upon price plus a few hundred bucks for his trouble. He takes your coach in trade at a ridiculously low price (that’s what dealers do, right?) and reduces the price on the “new to you” coach accordingly. Tax bill gets reduced.

Dealer makes his money on the subsequent sale of your trade and the small fee you paid him as the facilitator of your private party purchase.

If financing is needed to facilitate the transaction, dealer might also step up and make a few more bucks.

And, of course, this is all legal.
__________________
Dan & Linda
FMCA 399045 NKK 22240
2017 Dutch Star 4018 - Spartan K2
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4
deaton is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2017, 05:19 AM   #12
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by deaton View Post
In Texas, and many other states, the sales tax is figured on the difference between the agreed cash price for the new coach and the value allowed for your trade.

Our ST is 6.25% on vehicles.

So $200k new coach less $100k trade leaves $100k and tax bill of $6,250 from the governor.

If you sell your coach outright, then you have no trade to offset the purchase and your tax bill, in this example, doubles.

So some folks make their deal to buy a used coach from a private party and then take the deal to a cooperating dealer. He buys the used coach and sells it to you at the agreed upon price plus a few hundred bucks for his trouble. He takes your coach in trade at a ridiculously low price (that’s what dealers do, right?) and reduces the price on the “new to you” coach accordingly. Tax bill gets reduced.

Dealer makes his money on the subsequent sale of your trade and the small fee you paid him as the facilitator of your private party purchase.

If financing is needed to facilitate the transaction, dealer might also step up and make a few more bucks.

And, of course, this is all legal.
I get you now what the dealer would do :-)

I could always ask them.
__________________
2008 Itasca Latitude 37g UFO.
Former 2005 Damon Daybreak 3270F.
No Toad.
Unicorn Driver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2017, 05:31 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
deaton's Avatar


 
Monaco Owners Club
Newmar Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Posts: 1,046
Purchasing a used Newmar gas coach advice

Right. Talk to the dealer close by and see if he will play. You get the advantage of shopping all over for the used coach you want to buy, seller may feel better because he is signing over title to a dealer, not an individual. Dealer might even sell a new coach to your seller, and if you’re into ESP’s maybe your dealer makes some money there too.

I have a buddy here in TX who just did this on a Winnie he negotiated for from a private party who was passing through New Braunfels. A dealer in CA took his old coach in trade and “sold” him the new one. Seller lived in CA and suggested using this particular dealer. Dealer cut was $400.
__________________
Dan & Linda
FMCA 399045 NKK 22240
2017 Dutch Star 4018 - Spartan K2
2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4
deaton is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2017, 05:58 AM   #14
Member
 
LennyC's Avatar


 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: El Mirage, AZ
Posts: 65
Dealer Pass-Through

In a 'pass-through deal' you find a coach and tell the dealer about it. The dealer arranges to bring the coach you want into inventory in order to re-sell it to you. This will take a monetary commitment from you as a pre-sales agreement.
The dealer will take a small fee (say 3-5%) and for that can do things like pre-delivery inspection, fix any minor snags, arrange registration in your locale, and even do final detailing for delivery.
This preserves your relationship and gives the dealer a sale that it wouldn't have had unless you brought it to them.
I would be interested in working with you for an April delivery through your dealer.
My ad for a 2015 Newmar Canyon Star 3953 is in the classified ads section of iRV2 at http://www.irv2.com/rvclassifieds/sh...-cs-3953&cat=4
__________________

__________________
Len & Cathleen, with 2 fluffy stowaways
2015 Newmar Canyon Star 3953, Mesquite / Thunder Bay
LennyC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
advice, gas, newmar



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New to site need facts on purchasing used Country Coach Ward family Country Coach Owners Forum 22 11-08-2015 10:00 PM
Looking for Coach Purchasing Advice D.Weber Monaco Owner's Forum 29 11-12-2011 10:00 AM
Questions on purchasing a used bumper pull TT jude02 Travel Trailer Discussion 6 02-19-2008 07:27 AM
Purchasing a used motorhome Bill Moss Class A Motorhome Discussions 11 02-17-2008 02:18 PM
Used Gas MH vs. used Diesel MH? tiniree Class A Motorhome Discussions 10 04-30-2006 08:57 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.