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Old 08-08-2018, 12:54 PM   #1
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Removing the Passenger chair desk!

So I read a thread a while ago about this passenger chair desk being a bad idea and how everyone removes it - so I decided today I would get rid of it. The desk itself came off fine - but I cannot figure out how to remove that bracket off the chair that sticks out and looks like it is going to bite every ankle coming in the door! How do you get that part off?
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:07 PM   #2
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I took mine off my 2014 the first week we owned it. I think I still have the scar on my ankle. I asked that it be deleted on my new order. The tech was in the room and said they're easily removable in 2019 and actually stow out of the way better.....we'll see. I know that many complained they couldn't get the entire bracket off. On my 2014, everything came off.
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So I read a thread a while ago about this passenger chair desk being a bad idea and how everyone removes it - so I decided today I would get rid of it. The desk itself came off fine - but I cannot figure out how to remove that bracket off the chair that sticks out and looks like it is going to bite every ankle coming in the door! How do you get that part off?


Remove the 3/4 bolt and two 13mm bolts
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:49 PM   #4
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I'll have to look more closely, but I just removed the passenger chair desk in the 2018 MADP and it appears the stub is welded directly to the chair frame. If that is the case, I plan to shorten the 1" square bar stub. Hoping I'm wrong and that it is somehow bolted in place.

An engineer friend of mine has told me that an overlap of 3X the diameter of a tube on a stub provides sufficient joint strength. That would be 3" for a 1" square tube. The stub for the desk is considerably longer than that. I'm guessing that my Sawzall will easily reduce the length, if necessary, and still leave enough stub to reinstall the desk, if desired.

In the interim, I have placed a soft plastic cap over the end of the stub to reduce the "bite" from this "ankle biter."

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Remove the 3/4 bolt and two 13mm bolts
Stuart, I just looked at mine and it looks quite different. Apparently, on yours, the female portion (socket) is bolted to the chair frame. On mine, the male portion (stub) is welded to the chair frame and the socket end is on the desk post.

Interesting.

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Just finished a detailed look at our passenger chair and, the stub is, indeed, welded directly to the pivot support pan. So, when things cool off (it has been in the mid-90s today) I'll break out the Sawzall and shorten the stub.

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Stuart, I just looked at mine and it looks quite different. Apparently, on yours, the female portion (socket) is bolted to the chair frame. On mine, the male portion (stub) is welded to the chair frame and the socket end is on the desk post.



Interesting.



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That is interesting. At first glance I though mine was welded, then someone here said it wasnít . Not saying yours isnít different
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Chairs must be different?
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On my 2015 London Aire it looked solid to the frame. So out came the sawzall. It will be easy to put it back on for the next one either by welding or a square tube with bolts securing it
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Many needed to be cut off prior to the 2019 or late run 2018. They now remove in 1 minute and no protrusion remains. You may need to cut it off.
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Many needed to be cut off prior to the 2019 or late run 2018. They now remove in 1 minute and no protrusion remains. You may need to cut it off.
I don't know about "late run 2018" as our coach was reportedly the last 2018 Mountain Aire off the line and the stub is definitely NOT a "1 minute" removal job...even with a Sawzall.

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My DS was Nov, 2017, and I have helped other that were built a few months prior to mine, so there must be more to it.
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Straight from the Tech we had remove ours at Newmar 2 weeks ago. We have a 2018 on a 2019 Chassis and many of the 2019 upgrades including that change.
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My MADP was an early 2018 run #5 and it is a male solid piece as Jim noted when table is removed like his is. I looked at cutting it off, but ultimately used a piece of pool noodle to keep it from ankle destruction, easy peasy!!!
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